From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 25 09:09:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59E73E3 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A127D8FC0A for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-110-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.110.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4039276E8; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:09:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q9P99BNi001942; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:09:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:09:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk Subject: Re: laptop with no BIOS? or BIOS reflash pain Message-Id: <20121025110911.4942c819.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201210250840.q9P8eK7v005917@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <12874F2A-8A60-4D31-B090-0B9F1E4E7806@cran.org.uk> <201210250840.q9P8eK7v005917@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:09:13 -0000 On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:40:20 +0100 (BST), Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > From bruce@cran.org.uk Thu Oct 25 09:22:33 2012 > > > On 25 Oct 2012, at 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > I'm probably missing something here. > > ia64 uses EFI, but there's nothing > > about checking for "non-signed" code. > > I can boot VMS, FreeBSD, linux, etc. > > And, by the way, firmware updates from EFI via e.g. > > USB flash drives is trivial on ia64. > > Perhaps what you are describing is not about the EFI > > specification iteself, but what > > different manufacturers add on top of it? > > > It's in the latest UEFI spec - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot . > > -- > Bruce Cran > > fuck.. I'm out of touch. > So this means I might not > be able to boot freebsd at all > on future ia64 boxes.. There probably won't be much ia64 boxes in the future. You should worry to not be able to run FreeBSD on ARM, and maybe even later on "normal" x86 (amd64) hardware, if specific interested parties should get their will... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...