From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 16:01:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C489FEDC; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:01:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@1command.com) Received: from udns.ultimateDNS.NET (ultimatedns.net [209.180.214.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D9702C43; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from udns.ultimateDNS.NET (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimateDNS.NET (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r71G1tCW015043; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by udns.ultimateDNS.NET (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r71G1ogf015037; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:01:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@1command.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net ([209.180.214.225]) (UDNSMS authenticated user chrish) by ultimatedns.net with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1375372066.32718.4618055.71C55506@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <622977670ec4e80b844c5c6c978ae6f6.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> <1375372066.32718.4618055.71C55506@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Please remove Perl from ports From: "Chris H" To: "Mark Felder" User-Agent: UDNSMS/2.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:01:36 -0000 Greetings Mark, and thank you for your thoughtful reply. > I can't comment on the perl changes directly, but I can assure you that > if you use port-mgmt/pkg (pkgng) and build your ports into packages via > ports-mgmt/poudriere you will have zero upgrade problems -- a simple > "pkg upgrade" will handle the scenario properly. I really haven't tried > following UPDATING with portmaster/portupgrade to see what happens. I'd > suspect that portmaster is doing something wrong, but further > investigation is really necessary to have a solid conclusion of what > happened on your server(s). While that sounds real nice. The *current* upgrade will need to *successfully* complete, before attempting to "jump tracks", and re-create an up(grade|date) policy. :) > > For the first time in ages the ports environment on FreeBSD is rapidly > evolving. There are many, many new features that benefit the whole of > the userbase and will ease support and deployment across the board. > We're trying to limit turbulence, but sometimes things are > unforeseeable. This is the nature of the incredible flexibility of > FreeBSD's ports; "there's more than one way to do something." Sounds a bit "Perlish". :) Thanks again. --chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >