Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:31:08 +0100 From: Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net> To: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> Cc: "ports@freebsd.org" <ports@freebsd.org>, Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>, Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading a Port on 8.2 Message-ID: <5303B4FC.1030207@madpilot.net> In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1sbzwOXeVKv9ASSEx8NX_m_ieCiQWVB2ix-RqRNN-KWrA@mail.gmail.com> References: <C147ED80-BE32-4C4D-A965-ED7C617BB97F@lafn.org> <20140218134344.07d1b0fa@X220.alogt.com> <89558292-BAD3-46B1-82E5-63501340AE0B@lafn.org> <20140218155418.35f11ef5@X220.alogt.com> <530361E1.3010904@madpilot.net> <CAN6yY1sbzwOXeVKv9ASSEx8NX_m_ieCiQWVB2ix-RqRNN-KWrA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 02/18/14 18:26, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net > <mailto:mad@madpilot.net>> wrote: > > On 02/18/14 08:54, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:51:51 -0800 > > Hi, > > > > Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org <mailto:bc979@lafn.org>> wrote: > > > >> > >> On 17 February 2014, at 21:43, Erich Dollansky > >> <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com > <mailto:erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>> wrote: > >> > >>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:07:43 -0800 > >>> Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org <mailto:bc979@lafn.org>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I have an older, but basically clean, install of 8.2 on a > >>>> production system. It has a few ports that were installed back > >>>> when 8.2 was new. However, I need to add pdftk. Pkg_add did that > >>>> nicely. HOwever, it added version 1.44. The history for pdftk > >>>> shows that a major problem was fixed in 1.45 and I am encountering > >>>> that problem and need to upgrade. Portupgrade pdftk does > >>>> nothing. It seems to decide that the latest version is 1.44. > >>>> However, on a 9.2 system, I get a much higher version number. Is > >>>> there any way to determine if 1.44 is the latest version that will > >>>> run with 8.2 or is there another way I need to upgrade to ports > >>>> files? Its my understanding that cvsup is no longer with us. > >>> > >>> how I understand your problem, the behaviour of the machine is > >>> normal as you kept the old ports tree. > >>> > >>> If you would like to have a newer version of a port, you would have > >>> to update the ports tree first. The big but is then that you will > >>> have to update all installed ports too and then install the program > >>> you need. > >>> > >>> If you have real bad luck, this could force you even to upgrade from > >>> 8.2 to 8.4. So, be careful. > >> > >> Thats what I expected, but the question remains: how? Cvsup I > >> believe is no longer with us and purtupgrade apparently doesn't do > >> that either. > > > > I would suggest that you take ftp to download the current ports tree. > > It contains then a current svn. You would not need svn after this as > > the ports are downloaded by using fetch. > > > > Of course, for further updates, I would recommend moving to svn. > > This is more a personal opinion, but for general production use(not > development) portsnap is a much better choice than subversion. portsnap > is usually not more than one hour behind the subversion repository, so, > if you don't really need the latest changes, it's quite fresh and much > faster at downloading updates. It's also included in base also on older > releases (10 and up have svnlite included in base too). > > just an opinion though. > > > In general, I agree wholeheartedly. > > There is one potential issue with using portsnap that will only be > significant to a very few, but might unpleasantly surprise someone. > > Unlike svn, portsnap will overwrite the ports tree and eliminate any > local modifications. Most people don't have any of these, so for most, > this is not an issue. People just need to be aware of it if they do as > the files are gone after running portsnap, making recovery a pain. I agree, but for people who really need to keep local modofications to the ports tree I'd suggest using ports-mgmt/portshaker in conjunction with their VCS of choice(or plain directories...) -- Guido Falsi <mad@madpilot.net>
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