From owner-freebsd-bugs Wed Oct 23 01:22:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-bugs Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA05104 for bugs-outgoing; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA05089; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA22397; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:21:29 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA16361; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:21:29 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.6/8.6.9) id KAA24653; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:06:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199610230806.KAA24653@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: bin/926 To: hsu@clinet.fi (Heikki Suonsivu) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:06:31 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: phk@critter.tfs.com, hsu@clinet.fi, dg@Root.COM, scrappy@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freefall.freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199610230648.JAA19608@katiska.clinet.fi> from Heikki Suonsivu at "Oct 23, 96 09:48:53 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > > It is ancient wisdom that you mount soft+background in that scenario, > > or wait forever after a power-failure :-) > > Starting mountd before mounting nfs disks corrects this problem and as far > as I know does not have any disadvantages. There's no universal solution for how to arrange your /etc/rc. We've come to this conclusion previously. Some people need to mount NFS file systems early (but then, they do not crossmount), since crucial parts of the rc like syslogd should be started before, and are mounted remotely (or /var might be NFS like in a diskless setup). Other people have other preferences. > write to, or document root is missing). It is possible to kludge around > this but it would be better to fix it, particularly when it is this easy > and does not effect anyone who is not doing cross-mounting (other than nfs > comes up slightly faster after a crash/reboot, which is a plus). People cross-mounting are 1) insane :-)), and 2) advised to use amd instead. This discussion is neverending, we cannot cat any consent on this i believe. I therefore vote to close the PR if 10 other rounds of discussion come up without consensus, or if the discussion starves. The originator does already know how he can prevent the problem, and we cannot save _any_ people's problems universally. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)