From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 19 18:40:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842DB106566B for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@MIT.EDU) Received: from biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (BISCAYNE-ONE-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B3C8FC16 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@MIT.EDU) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id n6JISACc003632 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id n6JIS9GN002265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id n6JIS9UU017226; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:28:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Benjamin Kaduk To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.00 Subject: nondeterministic device probing (mouse, laptop) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:40:17 -0000 Hi all, My laptop (ThinkPad T400) is running 8-current from May 24 or so. Sometimes, it fails to probe /dev/psm on boot; if I turn it off and turn it on again, it usually does find the mouse the second time. Any thoughts for how to start debugging this? I don't even know whether to suspect hardware or software more, at this point. Thanks, Ben Kaduk