From owner-freebsd-net Mon Mar 18 18: 3:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from gw.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.143.238.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7986337B416 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 34856 invoked by uid 1001); 19 Mar 2002 12:03:29 +1000 X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.25 04-Mar-2002 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Uptime: 68 days, 18:21 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:03:28 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Mike Silbersack Cc: Josef Karthauser , W Alexander Hagen , freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd REL_ENG 4.3 p28 freezes every 30 minutes. References: <20020318194421.Y45592-100000@patrocles.silby.com> In-reply-to: <20020318194421.Y45592-100000@patrocles.silby.com> of Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:45:39 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Silbersack wrote: | On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Greg Black wrote: | | > Josef Karthauser wrote: | > | > | 4.3 is two whole major releases ago. You should be running 4.5, which | > | you can get by cvsuping using the tag RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE, or the tag | > | RELENG_4 if you wish to be at the head of developments on the -stable | > | branch. | > | > This is not wise advice. There are lots of circumstances where | > 4.3 is perfectly fine and can be shown to work while 4.4 and 4.5 | > are broken. I have had to revert to 4.3 on several machines | > after attempting unsuccessfully to run 4.4 and 4.5 (and current, | > for that matter). | | Which PRs describe the problems encountered? I have not submitted a PR yet. I have raised the problems on the FreeBSD mailing lists several times since 4.4-RELEASE and have had some correspondence with Warner Losh and Greg Lehey in vain attempts to establish some basis for working towards a solution. In essence, I have laptops that work fine with PCMCIA cards under 4.3 but which don't recognise them at all under later releases (including 4.4, 4.5 and current as of a few weeks ago). The symptoms, as reported several times, are: * Failure to boot without the following magic in /boot/loader.conf: hw.pcic.intr_path="1" hw.pcic.irq="0" * Boot message that says: pccard: card inserted, slot 0 pcic0: Static bug detected, ignoring hardware. These messages are printed whether or not there is a card in the slot. * As a result of the previous item, naturally the PCMCIA cards don't work when inserted. The same machines, when running 4.3-RELEASE, drive my PCMCIA cards just fine. I have CURRENT on one of these boxes and could CVS update it for further tests if somebody can suggest where to start looking. If it would really help to submit a PR at this point, I suppose I could do that. It seems to me that it would be more useful to learn a bit more first. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message