From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 4 17:24:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA25699 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:24:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from pandora.hh.kew.com (root@kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25671 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:24:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ahd@kew.com) Received: from sonata (sonata.hh.kew.com [192.195.203.135]) by pandora.hh.kew.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26196; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:24:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <345FCABB.C7F61219@kew.com> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 20:24:11 -0500 From: Drew Derbyshire Reply-To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks, Stoneham MA 02180 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en]C-MOENE (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Faber CC: jbryant@tfs.NET, Gary Kendall Subject: Re: mv /usr/src/games /dev/null - any objections? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199711040224.SAA08017@tnt.isi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Follow-ups deflected to chat on this tangent ... Ted Faber wrote: > I don't think that's the mark of a sane society, but it's the way the > law is written and is enforced. To protect their trademark from > others they have to protect it from us. Xerox didn't and poof, xerox > is an English word and 3M can include it in their adds. Last I knew, Xerox still defends it's quite valid trademark. Say Xerox on TV when you mean 'photocopy' and if you're not using a Xerox (R) copier, you get a phone call. From their lawyers. Chugga, chugga ... http://www.xerox.com/factbook/1997/glance.htm specifically notes: XEROX®, The Document Company® and the stylized X are trademarks of XEROX CORPORATION. Product and service names profiled herein are trademarks of Xerox Corporation. Any other named products profiled herein are trademarks of their respective companies. Note that they claim XEROX® is a registered trademark. Note too that part about 'other named products'. You (and they) can use someone else's trademark to identify the trademark owner's product -- you just can't claim it as your own, including putting it on your products. That's how Pepsi can mention Coca-Cola -- they don't claim the mark as Pepsi's own, but rather give credit as needed. -- Internet: ahd@kew.com Voice: 781-279-9812 "An important, but often overlooked, feature of running a computer system is maintaining its security from outside intrusion, internal sabotage, and just plain user stupidity." -- Unix System Administration, Fiedler and Hunter