From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 12 07:19:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA22343 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 12 May 1996 07:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA22338 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 07:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uIbzy-000QYkC; Sun, 12 May 96 16:19 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA12736; Sun, 12 May 1996 16:12:54 +0200 Message-Id: <199605121412.QAA12736@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: UNIX System To: rnordier@iafrica.com (Robert Nordier) Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 16:12:53 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Questions), chat@allegro.lemis.de Reply-To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605121356.PAA07602@eac.iafrica.com> from "Robert Nordier" at May 12, 96 03:56:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Nordier writes: > > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> Hugh D. McVicker writes: >>> >>> Is Freebsd a UNIX operating system for PCs? >> >> Yes and no. FreeBSD is derived from UNIX, but as of a couple of years >> ago, the term "UNIX" is a trade mark, not a description of an >> operating system. As a result, FreeBSD many not be called UNIX. I'm >> still wondering, however, whether it may not be called "Berkeley >> UNIX". > > Does 'Unix as trademark' really date back only a couple of years? > > I have a series of P.J. Plauger articles (Computer Language, 1988-9) > in which he discusses protecting intellectual property. He writes: > > If you play fast and loose with the UNIX name in any of your > ads, you will get a letter from AT&T. The letter will remind > you that UNIX is a proprietary etc., etc., and suggest ways > you should refer to it in the future so as not to introduce > the least element of uncertainty in the minds of readers of > your ads.... They have a copy of the letter in their files > to prove they are assiduously defending their trademark. > > Since Bill's articles were the only reason I ever bought 'Computer > Language' (after the defection of Stan Kelly-Bootle) anyway, I'd > hate to think he's been misleading me all this time. 8) Sorry, I expressed myself badly. Yes, of course UNIX (not Unix) has been a trademark of its owners for decades. I was referring to the fact that BSD may no longer be called UNIX, whereas older versions were. 4.3BSD was definitely UNIX, but 4.4BSD isn't. That change goes back to about the Net/2 times, I'd say. I'm copying this one to chat, since I can imagine that there could be significant followup. Greg