From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 5 20:07:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E96C16A41F for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:07:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502A943D53 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:07:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with SMTP id j85K7467015529; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 23:07:05 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j85K74Wc070911; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 23:07:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j85K73IL070910; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 23:07:03 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.daedalusnetworks.priv: keramida set sender to keramida@ceid.upatras.gr using -f Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 23:07:02 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20050905200702.GA70885@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20050905081609.GB1378@gothmog.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: Grant Peel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Terminals X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:07:08 -0000 On 2005-09-05 12:55, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas [keramida@ceid.upatras.gr] wrote: >>On 2005-09-05 00:25, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> if you crash a box why would a serial console still work? >> >>It would still work if the kernel has KDB compiled in. I'm not sure if >>this is what the original poster meant though. > > I had a 4.11 box just freeze the other day (our news server) > > power-cycling got it running again, nothing else worked. > > It would be nice to pretend all OUR crashes end up in kernel > panics but this isn't reality. Well, you have a point there. I've never seen a hard freeze, but that doesn't seem they don't exist.