From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 27 23:50:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65041067FB0 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD27E8FC1A for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1RNoJ3f045868 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:50:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47C5F744.8020608@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:50:28 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080122) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1204146470.47c5d1267ceee@webmail.rawbw.com> <47C5D8F6.20608@errno.com> <1204149622.47c5dd76995ba@webmail.rawbw.com> <47C5F356.3000101@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <47C5F356.3000101@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Is it possible that modern wireless card only supports WPA and not WEP or this is a bug in the driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:50:20 -0000 Pietro Cerutti wrote: > It wouldn't make sense. Flags are used to specify capabilities of the > > interface, not things provided by the operating system. > > This is very confusing to user. User is assumed to have this bit of knowledge that WEP flag actually means only hardware support, not support in general. On another note WEP is actually supported by interface but driver authors didn't bother to use it. So WEP flag doesn't represent actual capabilities of the interface and this is again confusing. When I type 'ifconfig ...' I am mostly interested what can I use from that side, not what is supported by hardware. Is there any way to know what is logically supported by network interface as passed to 'ifconfig' vs. what is supported by hardware interface? Yuri