From owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 11 22:00:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E7716A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:00:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867AB43D1F for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:00:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i5BLxkE8057625; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:59:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <40CA2B4A.8050207@centtech.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:59:38 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040520) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Sporner References: <20040611213406.73300.qmail@web41509.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040611213406.73300.qmail@web41509.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Leaving the group X-BeenThere: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Clustering FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:00:09 -0000 Andy Sporner wrote: >Hi, > >I have waited to see what kind of comments would have been >elicited from Lasse's suggestion and so far it has produced >none. However it has produced many hits of my server. > >I am really not suprised considering the reply I got >here from this one. > Andy - I personally appreciate your contribution, and software. You can mark me down as "1", if you'd like.. To be fair, though, I think giving the email a few hours for people to respond is a little short - many people are not in your timezone, and are sleeping.. many are busy working, and aren't reading this list until they get home.. many people, like myself, get the mails, but skip past them to the 'work' emails, then come back to them when they get a chance.. I think maybe you were looking for a good reason to pull out and start selling your software, or maybe something else has pissed you off, I don't know. What I do know, is that if there are enough people that are interested, they'll just a tool that replaces yours, and they won't pay you for it - that's kind of how the community works. Many of us have written tools, software, patches, etc, etc, and contributed a lot to the community (which I understand you are currently feeling doesn't exist), but only rarely will anyone say "thanks".. that's unfortunately how the world is (not just this community), so you have to find your own thanks, like how many downloads there have been, or people mentioning your software on lists, etc.. If you need cash, just start a 'cluster fund' similar to others, and I'm sure you'll get something (maybe not what you could get for it if you sold it at a retail price to somebody, but then, support does cost money).. I don't know Andy, I guess I'm just a little shocked that someone as talented and ambitious as yourself would give up this easily - you seem more like the type that would just say 'f*** em if they don't know how to google and find my software' instead of 'hey, you guys never come out and play with me, so I'm not going to invite you to my birthday party'.. Anyway, thanks for the contribution that I guess nobody will be able to thank you for again.. maybe you'll change your mind before someone else writes a replacement.. Cheers, Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. ------------------------------------------------------------------