From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Fri Sep 25 04:30:46 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5D53EA1C0 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ByJr65Bj1z4cBt for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B06A53EA1BF; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: x11@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03183E9EE4 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ByJr64DXSz4cBs for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75967D86B for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 08P4Ukk8047307 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:30:46 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 08P4Uk81047306 for x11@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:30:46 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 247441] graphics/gpu-firmware-kmod and or graphics/drm-fbsd11.2-kmod crashing 11.2 to 11.4 with a Radeon HD 5770 card Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:30:45 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Individual Port(s) X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: bennett@sdf.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: x11@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:30:46 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D247441 --- Comment #22 from Scott Bennett --- >I am not sure exactly what else you expect. I expected at minimum an answer to yes/no questions (see comment #10). >You are expected to run a supported version of FreeBSD. Currently, that's >11.3, 11.4 and 12.1. 11.3 stops being supported at the end of September. = We >also try to support the latest STABLE and CURRENT branches, but if you are >using those branches, you are expected to keep up with development, and to >upgrade in a timely fashion. And there you dodge the questions in comments #10, #14, #18, #19, and = #20 again. Have the firmware modules changed since 28 April 2020? How long are stable revisions considered to be adequately up to date to be supported? >I don't know much about NomadBSD, haven't used it myself. But if it works= for >you, then, by all means, use it. I note that NomadBSD is based on FreeBSD >12.1. FreeBSD 12.1 (and the upcoming 12.2) uses a more recent version of = the >gpu-kmod driver, based on Linux 4.16. There have also been a lot of chang= es to >the Linux KPI compat layer between FreeBSD 11 and 12. If NomadBSD works, perhaps the problems you are experiencing have been solved. Obviously irrelevant. NomadBSD is running on a laptop's AMD APU. The problems are occurring on a tower with a Radeon HD 5770 card made by MSI. It's worth noting that the condescension of your final paragraph is of= f- target, as well as moderately offensive. I do, of course, understand that = you are a volunteer. However, if you are unwilling or unable to support the Ra= deon HD 5770, then you should either state that up front or perhaps try to find another team member who is willing and able to support it. Dodging questio= ns and hoping the problem will just go away is not being patient or helpful. More than two months ago you instructed me to repeat something that was already known to fail with those versions of the firmware and DRM module. Because that seemed a pointless thing to do, I asked whether a) the firmware had changed or b) radeonkms.ko had changed. I later answered the radeonkms= .ko question in the negative. I still do not know about the firmware. I also asked in various ways how recent a revision of a STABLE branch of FreeBSD w= as considered sufficiently recent to be supported. I am still waiting to get = the answers to those two questions. If either has changed since 20 April 2020, then I will certainly try running xorg again. Until then, I cannot see a reason to crash my system deliberately by running versions that have been proven to fail. It really is a simple and obvious decision to make. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug.=