From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Feb 4 18: 3:52 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB3937B4DF for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:03:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462E443FB8 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20505; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:03:25 -0700 (MST) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20030204185837.040269d0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 19:03:17 -0700 To: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen), Shaun Jurrens From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <0vlm0vg5jj.m0v@localhost.localdomain> References: <20030204101527.GJ5093@atreides.freenix.no> <20030204101527.GJ5093@atreides.freenix.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:22 PM 2/4/2003, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: >The Project would be better off if people tried to take other's seeming >offenses less seriously in general, and particularly when considering >actions which are likely to send someone packing forever, like the >withdrawal of priviledges or even the sending of a too-harsh flame. I agree. This is one of the problems which is exacerbated by the fact that the project is governed by the developers. Many developers, even quite brilliant ones, are short-tempered and react very badly when the smallest amount of their bandwidth is consumed by something that is not of interest to them. They lack the patience and diplomatic skills to be managers of the entire project. Yet, FreeBSD, due largely to its history, still vests general governance in the "core team" -- which, in fact, might be glad to get rid of that responsibility and focus pretty much exclusively on hacking. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message