From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 3 20:47:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200AD1065676 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2010 20:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: from scotth.emsphone.com (scotth.emsphone.com [199.67.51.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98DC8FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2010 20:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from scotth.emsphone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scotth.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o73KlfjV026851; Tue, 3 Aug 2010 15:47:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: (from shildret@localhost) by scotth.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o73Kle0W026850; Tue, 3 Aug 2010 15:47:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) From: "Scott T. Hildreth" To: Jung-uk Kim In-Reply-To: <201008031641.01111.jkim@FreeBSD.org> References: <1280862606.25758.6.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <201008031641.01111.jkim@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:47:40 -0500 Message-ID: <1280868460.25758.20.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IcedTea X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:47:42 -0000 On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 16:40 -0400, Jung-uk Kim wrote: > On Tuesday 03 August 2010 03:10 pm, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > > Has anyone tried the latest IcedTea dist (1.8 I think), which I > > believe has the Java plugin? >=20 > I haven't tried the lastest IcedTea but I have experimented with some=20 > old versions. FYI, you cannot use IcedTea as is because it is just a=20 > bunch of patches and build glues for Linux distros. >=20 > > Is this the way FreeBSD will provide the Java plugin or is there > > still hope that Oracle/Sun will opensource the plugin code? >=20 > Theoretically, you can build the IcedTea plugin with FreeBSD OpenJDK=20 > ports. Last time I tried, all I needed to build the plugin was=20 > liveconnect, netx, and plugin directories and some patches in=20 > patches/extensions from the IcedTea tarball. Of course, you need to=20 > write some build glues, which is, well, not so trivial. Any way, I=20 > was able to build it but it was incomplete because we didn't have the=20 > latest libxul in ports tree to make it work at the time. I believe=20 > Gecko porting team is working on it and I may try it again if I find=20 > some copious free time. ;-) >=20 > > I know this has been brought up before, with firefox 4 in the works > > I'm sure it will require a newer java as well. >=20 > FYI, Firefox has nothing to do with Java version itself. Mozilla team= =20 > just removed the old Java plugin API (OJI) from newer Gecko engines=20 > and that's all. I think "Look, Sun has released plugin binaries with=20 > the new API for Linux! Let's kill the old API." was really really a=20 > bad decision because 1) Sun promised but never released the sources=20 > after all, 2) it pretty much killed all third-party OJI plugins=20 > including my Diablo plugin for FreeBSD/amd64. Of course, you can=20 > stay with old Firefox and friends but... =20 I have no problem using 3.5, just wondering how much longer they will=20 support it (I'm sure for a while). > Sigh... =20 Yes, that won't be good for the Desktop BSD's dists. Thanks for the info. >=20 > Jung-uk Kim > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"