From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 25 09:27:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29075 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 09:27:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28948 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 09:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28561; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:26:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd028524; Wed Feb 25 10:26:20 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA09141; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:26:11 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199802251726.KAA09141@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: errormessages To: robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:26:11 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, seki@sysrap.cs.fujitsu.co.jp, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Robert Watson" at Feb 25, 98 09:42:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The big win here is internationalization of manuals instead of error > > messages. > > > > This actually makes a lot of sense for encapsulated messages (like > > sendmail). > > > > I've actually been thinking that it's about time someone built an RFC > > for message formats for log messages. I was thinking "STARTED", "READY", > > "SHUTDOWN", "STOPPED" would be a good start. > > > > Consider the case where you are trying to track a sendmail problem, and > > you don't have notification of "stop", only of "start" and "event". > > There was a universal logging BOF at December IETF -- I'm not sure what > conclusions were reached as I was at the security area session. :) I am > sure that internationalization was a big issue, was was security, etc. > There's probably a web page somewhere with the minutes, I would guess. Thanks; I'm going looking now. The main thing I was concerned with was that there is only implicit startup or shutdown or availability information. I wanted keywords (probably encoded as an 8 bit manifest constant, actually) so that I could have agent-based log monitoring. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message