From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 15 06:41:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F9F1065673 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-120.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-120.bluehost.com [69.89.18.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D6EA8FC12 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 26012 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 2008 06:41:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2008 06:41:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=fT6ustFyXN9wvEljBFtxTHDd6HmbbE1/03TOOgyX3b7rCkLbPtwW0htyybcbQJ0lKQilF7eeeYQab3hfaedk8fkySGyNGYq+zv/Ouwy+tNXD8Oe2N9jYkoOcCLtW7IJl; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LC78Y-000616-9w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:41:03 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:40:36 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:40:36 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081215064036.GK5527@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081212120437.B3687@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081212181258.GE36348@kokopelli.hydra> <20081212203202.H4803@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081212150228.520ad7f8@scorpio> <20081212212931.F5072@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081213094403.GH39031@kokopelli.hydra> <20081213163709.GA17550@comcast.net> <20081213200931.GD51063@kokopelli.hydra> <20081213214016.X44622@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n83H03bbH672hrlY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081213214016.X44622@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:41:03 -0000 --n83H03bbH672hrlY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 09:42:32PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >probably that they would create "competitors" somehow, magically, without > >providing any information that directly encourages competition for their > >hardware. If they wanted to provide per-incident paid software support > >or simply charge people extra for drivers, *then* I could see this being > >a problem, but I haven't seen a whole lot of that kind of rent-seeking > >behavior from graphics adapter vendors. >=20 > i don't see any problem. There is a product - for example Nvidia=20 > powersuckers^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hfull 3D accellerators. Their can this, that,=20 > blah, blah and blah, they don't have FreeBSD support. >=20 > There are other products, they can this that blah blah and have FreeBSD= =20 > support. >=20 > You need blah blah and blah under FreeBSD, you don't buy nvidia. >=20 > end of topic. I've responded to this attitude of yours in another subthread. I don't remember exactly where, but I mentioned terms like "laptop" and "package deal" (or something to that effect) a bit. Please address that before you go bandying this weak "argument" around any more. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth William Gibson: "The future is already here. It's just not very evenly distributed." --n83H03bbH672hrlY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklF++QACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWMGwCdH9rCXfQtBGAqBl939yWrwhX2 6sUAn27jB1ao4BWKBTEOXw1Vh2ErpKrA =O5rf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n83H03bbH672hrlY--