From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 30 02:43:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE77F155E315 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 02:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F44F8F9B7 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 02:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.193.229.77]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1Mbzhv-1gX9aA2KUB-00dahk; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 03:43:29 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 03:43:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "John Levine" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd@edvax.de Subject: Re: Why is Sendmail still around? Message-Id: <20190330034328.2ecbd2c8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20190329141241.8E0AC2010F2EB6@ary.local> References: <20190329141453.f2f7326f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190329141241.8E0AC2010F2EB6@ary.local> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:fk9qe89y5s5NybpYmjcioqBsITH3Wl+5IEjZ096q96pqR1JtCIw G/6NobbMncANj4OfANaZybQ8Q63M4VAtiWAIGSwzz+45JZofN5lLt2luhoWtnoDzC+6uGQM CQG5VijN48g9NmgPq0MiOzO29N2pdy7gGz2PDoOKD4damPny/DKuGi1DDqc25K2QvwlFJQC 7MZB2MXVn+CR8HLjrSgDw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:zaoBHHudJ9I=:tEq2X5zMdSzGGkEWMVP2BV xswtC4jrSstIqd1wWwG1hr6lteaKABHTjatN4x1zwrNVRfaf66w/OJ+Il1wKVoBf8F04peTPt VfWYMJKc8ALJcB7iUnyr9uzQmugBwWeezPLR9GEB66/r0eApBuHsP2yE30f4/8TUcLRu5bBnG xcNbeiNRkSZrl+q9VIGHOgPvi5LfRZTN9WlnYDCgTtRUcj2xIEm/IqzqR6vtOVw4n21pbxE0z E949sSkinlPxzn9wgzcQcrIjXXzgehkZCQv+tqxLZX3Ia1uMH+PNHUWgvjfOx6sxBU5cTpjY4 YL8bRAkzPojrceJy6DaVqjA/PvCjCOfVOzyO+UIihRhRRM9sthczcP+ax8PSqH5JBri/9/nlU 3x3hak/whLT02iHPGBCf/7VnrWOHyxl+Zf8bOR9bD39bWBUXych8v9ypm3SqkDXoH0M6f5H9X X0ifcPZDtc8wxHXYopnPmdVf9JgML4HU1SfkSXDKbQrMBCMaVw7s93oQCjwcJaQi7TUhXA+vS 9tX6o5bCPOVKl9xDFHsjjP2TmiqXY59QkroYmXQRIdK9XsDPsm6rSILkn93ac6o/RDSoV+s1n B8o72xoEhnkKNAxOO/kaya8G+r01j0xO/+vWWMI1cdIL+rOIbjRQ6itqr5vukW8iA4uKjj1Nh KCRLXxk81dRZQwPhDiQ30HrpxtZswFrZ/WQJgDZjaam1Z14OP+naxXZjaazEeDJCiXQwU+7AD 9ipi6O64XH7FoT4BTCASul6ft1SNh68SHC3tOdACS771UZVCQgzH7fgvzaQ= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3F44F8F9B7 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.97 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.974,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 02:43:40 -0000 On 29 Mar 2019 14:12:41 +0000, John Levine wrote: > In article <20190329141453.f2f7326f.freebsd@edvax.de> you write: > >> "man dma" for details. > > > >This sounds like a welcome solution. Could you send your > >mail locally to sendmail, and then have sendmail use dma > >to transfer it to the SMTP "incoming" server of your mail > >provider? I. e., what a mail relay / "SmartHost" usually > >does (even though with a different mechanism)? > > No need. You can configure dma to send all mail to your smarthost, > then edit /etc/mail/mailer.conf to use dma as your mail program. Sorry, maybe I didn't write my current problem in a more precise way: The SmartHost option (mail relay provided by ISP) is gone, I have to "directly contact" the mail provider via SMTP to get messages out (through their system). This is what I'd like to get sendmail doing, i. e., MUA submits locally to sendmail instance, sendmail (or something invoked by sendmail) opens SMTP connection to mail provider, sends messages, logs successful sending. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...