From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 8 23:59:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de (merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de [134.176.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E9E14CFB for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 23:59:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ariel.Burbaickij@mni.fh-giessen.de) Received: from caspar.mni.fh-giessen.de by merkur.hrz.uni-giessen.de with ESMTP; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:58:11 +0100 Received: from sun33.mni.fh-giessen.de ([134.176.183.133]) by caspar.mni.fh-giessen.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #6) id 11l630-0005LZ-00; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:50:34 +0100 Received: from localhost (hg9456@localhost) by sun33.mni.fh-giessen.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15494; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:59:46 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: sun33.mni.fh-giessen.de: hg9456 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:59:45 +0100 (MET) From: Ariel Burbaickij X-Sender: hg9456@sun33 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Ariel Burbaickij , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: let us restart peacefully In-Reply-To: Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-942134385=:15490" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. 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Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-942134385=:15490 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Ariel Burbaickij wrote: > > > > > So the trouble is with printer. > > Description of trouble > > First of all,yes i have maanged to bring him so far as to > > spit out some bytes.But on rather strange manner:i brought > > it up with lpc up lp,previously it was not possible for me > > to get it working with lpc start|enable all.As far as > > understood it from man pages though,the function > > of start|enable and up is rather identical.So > > the question #1: > > 1)Is it a bug or a feature?What is the > > expected way?What is the difference between > > up and enable. > > it seems 'start' will start lpd, while 'enable' will only > enable queing on the printer, it assumes you already have > lpd running. Nope it is not so neither start nor enable nor combination of them would start the printer,only up lp would do its job.What is the reason? On other systems(linux,solaris) i have seen they come out with just starting lpd during startup(in interrupt-driven as well as in polled mode).Both use BSD daemon so i dare to guess it is also under fbsd somehow possible to come out just with starting of lpd during ,is it not? > > Yet to statemnet about just few bytes. > > I use apsfilter and programm claims > > that it could handle TIFF format but i got reverse staircase > > effect while trying to print out some man pages.So question > > #2 is: > > How can i handle reverse staircase effect in this particular > > case? > This is odd, manpages aren't in TIFF format. I thought TIFF is format for troff prepared documents I think it would be great if you could provide us with your printcap file so we can see exactly what's going on. I have already done it but i will re-post it once more > > And last part is about magicfilter:Do any example files > > exist with all this magic bytes on magic places? > > Will magicfilter work with noPS printers? > > What further problems can arise while installing magicfilter? > > I'm sorry, i have no experiance with that program, I usually > find apsfilter to be all i need. > > > As to flame part of messages of Mrs Lehey and Perelman :)) > > that's Perlstein. Execuse me,please > > It is nothing so expecial about my messages we are all > > equal here as well as elsewhere,save maybe the fact > > that two troubles i had with fbsd so far resulted from > > 1)Book of Mr Lehey(see archives for july-august) > > I don't think you understand, we are trying to help you, there > are limits to what you can expect a volunteer to do, > telling us to search the archives for your message is just > asking too much. Sure i understood it and i would like to say thank you to you (Alfred Perelstein) answer from Mr Greg Lehey was hold in far less friendly tone though(i got to answers from you and from him) > If you refered to a url that contained your message then that > would be easy enough for anyone to look up. The last time > I searched the archives and responded based on that you > flamed me for it, why? I don't know, I _thought_ it was > the mail you were talking about but of course I couldn't be > sure. > > > 2)Rather "misleading" i quote one guy from mailing list > > concept of sysinstall's Upgrade. > > Huh? Problem is i made sysinstall's upgrade i did not know it would upgrade my system to itself with rather strange side-effects I did not no Upgrade expects already prepared new release somewhere(cd,nfs etc.) > > First of all i would like to say that your criticizm > > is accepted but maybe i would react somehow faster > > on errors caused not in last part by me. > > Sure thing, would you like a soda with that? > > > As to my alleged aversion to quote no i have not such > > kind of aversion but as already said yes i was somehow > > irritated by this surely well-minded very general hold suggestions > > started with the statement:"I do not remeber your problem." > > So i hope we are over with this surely not tremendously > > tries somehow to mend each other. > > The above two numbered items are what I was complainging about > I do not know what you are talking about because you don't > provide any references to what #1 and #2 refer to. > Here we go.I send my printcap with this message > sorry, > -Alfred > > Best Regards Ariel Burbaickij ---559023410-851401618-942134385=:15490 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; 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