From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 28 12:58:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E7137B419 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fASKvtF00684; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:57:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:57:55 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Erik Trulsson Cc: Brian Reichert , Dennis Mathiasen , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4-STABLE on 386? Message-ID: <20011128215755.B624@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011128142901.A90607@numachi.com> <20011128203017.GA73875@student.uu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011128203017.GA73875@student.uu.se>; from ertr1013@student.uu.se on Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 09:30:17PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 09:30:17PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 02:29:01PM -0500, Brian Reichert wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 11:24:14AM -0500, Dennis Mathiasen wrote: > > > Is it possible to install 4-STABLE on a 386DX with 8 Meg of memory? > > > The machine has no cd-rom. > > > > Possibly not. I recall (anecdotally) that recent versions of > > FreeBSD dropped support for the native hard drive controllers on > > [34]86-based motherboards. > > You probably recall wrong or at least not quite right. What you might > be thinking of is that support for old MFM/RLL/ESDI disks was removed > between 3.x and 4.0 but I think most 386's and all 486 machines used > normal IDE controllers anyway. What has been dropped is the 'wd' driver. This one could do MFM/RLL etc drives. > Any of those pre-IDE disks would almost certainly be too > small to install 4-STABLE on anyway. Or plain broken by years of faithful service. > Installing 4-STABLE on a machine with only 8 MB RAM can be problem. > I believe the installation process requires at least 12 MB memory. > It is perfectly possible to run 4-STABLE on a 386 with 8 MB RAM once it > has been installed on the other hand. I am doing exactly that. For entertainment I ran 4.something on a 386SX40 with 4MB. Using a disk that was installed on another system of course. But it ran! [well.. it crawled but still..] W/ -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message