From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Mar 26 11:32:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from server1.wallnet.com (server1.wallnet.com [208.225.162.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6736F37BA33 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:32:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cweimann@server1.wallnet.com) Received: (from cweimann@localhost) by server1.wallnet.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id OAA00682; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:32:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20000326143235.D29554@wallnet.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:32:35 -0500 From: "Christopher S. Weimann" To: "G. Adam Stanislav" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Guns and freedom [Was: Re: On "intelligent people" and "dangers to BSD"] References: <20000326015310.A846@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> <20000325104927.B234@parish> <20000325231656.E234@parish> <20000326015310.A846@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> <20000326131639.E234@parish> <3.0.6.32.20000326120230.00a6dd90@mail85.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000326120230.00a6dd90@mail85.pair.com>; from G. Adam Stanislav on Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:02:30PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:02:30PM -0600, G. Adam Stanislav wrote: > At 13:16 26-03-2000 +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > >> No. I don't. No. But the last one is a good point. If you own a gun, > >> you are more likely to be killed by it than any other. > > > >Can you elaborate? Is this due to accidently shooting yourself or > >being shot by someone else using your gun? > > I believe he was referring to the occurence of people being killed by their > own gun when an attacker takes the gun away from them, and then shoots them. > The famous statistic that shows that you are more likely to be killed by your own gun only shows that if you include suicides. http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdgaga.html http://www.i2i.org/SuptDocs/Crime/43_to_1_fallacy.htm Both have an explanation of the nonsense math involved in coming to the conclusion that your own gun is 43 times more likley to kill you. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher Weimann SysAdmin 400 Higgins Ave Wall Internet LLC. Brielle NJ, 08730 Serving almost all of New Jersey 732-223-1777 ------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message