From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Feb 12 00:57:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7ECF06812 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 00:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31B3674FE2 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 00:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.213.55]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue104 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0LalbM-1eMg2e3nGS-00kMJk; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 01:56:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 01:56:52 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Eric Joyner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a rant about soundcards and its endless dead-time Message-Id: <20180212015652.2550d87d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:sZeXAXpZsuMXxnHW8DNQOIgfZPCNuUKwzeLX2URV7v/MRrLCZ8e dTXo91IAkvdZcbMtYmeXUhc0sLELeMscS2YyUyaplIb4KvQDcImGzvibKUAI3B7neootrSl t2DwQRqsHTXt3clD6kAHxlICS1LdoNRmD+l5YFMISN7qy+hevQ4qtdNVMroQFEOyJmPEhcn E1OecteikxIFQX+NIy/6g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:D8ww8M4RRPY=:/iOGKLk2P/5Lz/C03wXy8n ICzu3QP48l24yVNX1Iny7zKHEOUNXlJQ3Z1NGVMX13qskXRvsv4L6s4H/r3a1LflHS6Vj5aTo OSCRKssyV/gHEaIkU6VobFabRC0vz7eiTV630i4IP57iMDF6e4CQ5wJ6e1MLf3USVAEMMfHDT GaWF8k/4vYU4h1jqYN1qYfbF9Mt1msvfDCudLcdypoNIuNTh7psESQrq7OYZGNBn6pmkBv0k9 sGNnw/4qjesZPjTKQ07Ny0fNPknFXM6S0yxh8UhRFpydPfpvFgYAC98gQu1KgkL11Ya1ipF0a 8g/S3B2HJmaZQvAmnsthcJp4C1R2s1umACnQdlG3aFD6jHIMzyx8/r3FMKKi26c3ZH053A4b0 XWAbh+2mfcKWXFirQTocOHVsLXlLz19N97h1tb2Q9PnrQX61vcJ7/oiuOsYikC2NJqUzKhjUA K7ZCP0NQncsXvVgAce/xv7bk9rvXMIUAUB2S2IqX09a8oS37zQfsmfe+8hBeAzhOGcbnIAciH bXYL5UaLlb/naAfu3n5+Zf1rUlENgrS84YOIsKF07Rz3Hk+2vun4d9ejbiqp1jZFojXt/eO7+ Ue8TX+LHY/pqYzD1KIgjz2bVgTzvgoOPHgDPpLioDI0UYO2+s3YaYAjjDHu3CC7fRHP0Vi8dp rgM4xGCZnaUUM4WHusw/BpLdiVPcRSyFvMdu0IUNYzmKbkmh5ZtKcy180QqrQ/zV4WhI3F/Z3 Xo85bLEp220eEYr0cS0s7SYZzSuz6MLLOsmtBmEuI3DMyRcE40RqEY/JrsU= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 00:57:02 -0000 On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 22:36:17 +0000, Eric Joyner wrote: > Why not just get a PCI-E sound card in the first place? I don't know why > someone would go out of their way to get a PCI one in 2018. MIDI interface? Just guessing... In the past, you had to introduce a sound card (usually 8-bit or 16-bit ISA slot on AT and early ATX), but then the onboard sound became standard. Personally, I was disappointed about the quality of the first AC'97-based chipsets so I put in a sound card (with CMI chipset) and it was much better, especially regarding the CD audio, line-in and microphone connectors. Today, as I don't do any (more or less) professional audio anymore, I'd say the builtin audio capabilities are sufficient in most cases, and "USB sound cards" are the way to go where they are not sufficient. It seems to be much easier to deal with those, even though it's a matter of "trial & error" regarding system support. But testing USB devices is of course easier than testing PCI cards. Plus - they can be used on several systems without much problems, it's as simple as "plug pull" and "plug insert". -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...