From owner-cvs-all Thu Mar 16 11:44:26 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (dhcp152.cdrom.com [204.216.28.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE1037C1EE; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01346; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:28:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:28:42 -0800 From: Greg Lehey To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Bruce Evans , Alfred Perlstein , Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files.i386 Message-ID: <20000315092842.B552@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <27833.953047621@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <27833.953047621@critter.freebsd.dk>; from phk@critter.freebsd.dk on Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 04:27:01PM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 14 March 2000 at 16:27:01 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message , Bruce Ev > ans writes: >> On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> >>> * Bruce Evans [000314 06:25] wrote: >>>> I'm still using this driver. Put it back. >>> >>> I'm sure it can be put back, but your feedback as to why would be >>> appreciated. Please be frank as I'd like to see ata as good if >>> not better than wd and if it isn't working as well as wd then we'd >>> like to know how and why. >> >> Stubbornness. I don't like the way it does some things, and resolved >> not to debug it or use it until I have hardware that needs it. Right >> now it supports less of my hardware than my version of the wd/wdc >> driver. (It can't read a cheap cdrom which may have the wrong jumper >> settings. The wd driver couldn't probe this cdrom but was easy to fix.) > > Somehow, this reminds me of the punchline in one of the scenes from > the Monty Python influenced movie "Eric the Viking". Those who > have seen it will probably smile when I say: "Now all the ones with > beards are in the same side of the boat". > > Bruce, the resons you cite, are not arguments to keep the wd driver > around for a release which will not happen for another 12 months, > it is an argument for us to get you some more recent hardware. So far I've tended to agree with the axemen, but I don't agree with this statement. We shouldn't gratuitiously limit hardware support, not even if it's for old and mouldy hardware. We have a driver which can support it. We shouldn't axe that driver (at least in -RELEASE) as long as its replacement can't support it. Of course, we still need to establish that there is any hardware which it can't support and which the at driver can. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message