From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 26 21:01:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D351A16A4CE; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:01:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from coruscant.rfc1149.org (coruscant.rfc1149.org [217.160.130.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A89343D58; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:01:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arne@rfc2549.org) Received: by coruscant.rfc1149.org (Postfix, from userid 110) id AC1B73F91; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:01:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kamino.rfc1149.org (dsl-213-023-205-253.arcor-ip.net [213.23.205.253]) by coruscant.rfc1149.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC50B3F6C; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:01:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: by kamino.rfc1149.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 51C944088; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:01:15 +0200 (CEST) To: Brian Fundakowski Feldman In-Reply-To: <20040726191004.GC96815@green.homeunix.org> (Brian Fundakowski Feldman's message of "Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:10:04 -0400") References: <1090718450.2020.4.camel@illusion.com> <200407251112.46183.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <1090790611.4628.1.camel@illusion.com> <20040726152151.GC1473@green.homeunix.org> <20040726114142.E32601@pooker.samsco.org> <20040726175219.GA96815@green.homeunix.org> <20040726121005.D32601@pooker.samsco.org> <20040726181821.GB96815@green.homeunix.org> <20040726125328.L32601@pooker.samsco.org> <20040726191004.GC96815@green.homeunix.org> From: Arne Schwabe Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:01:15 +0200 Message-ID: <86wu0qxz38.fsf@kamino.rfc1149.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on coruscant.rfc1149.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: cc: Scott Long cc: current@freebsd.org cc: bugghy Subject: Re: magic sysrq keys functionality X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:01:30 -0000 Brian Fundakowski Feldman writes: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 12:54:39PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: >> > I think it would be prudent to add a nice fat "WARNING:" printf to the >> > boot process. It's really not obvious that FreeBSD defaults to having >> > your hard drives run "unsafely," even though it is usually faster. >> > >> >> I think that this was discussed too. The problem is that Linux and >> Windows also silently default to having it on, and breaking from that >> status quo causes too much haertburn. > > The status quo of FreeBSD and Linux shouldn't really apply to FreeBSD... > we're supposed to be about stability and correctness. Solaris on Sparc (don't know about i386) has a nice way of doing this, it also does _not_ sync your disk in case of a panic but you call sync from the OpenBoot Prompt. [insert a OpenBoot is better than i386 bios flame here] Arne -- compiling millions of tiny c-programs...done checking for a working configure script... not found