From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Apr 10 15:02:53 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557E15CE850 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from outbound5c.ore.mailhop.org (outbound5c.ore.mailhop.org [54.244.192.240]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FHdXX6DSGz3QlQ for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1618066971; cv=none; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=arc-outbound20181012; b=H9vUF8i1GlWjxQoegEqTbuhedZnSuy3tQ4Q3R67dMJCNjdsn10eVqlz7otPbyBioxqLkc+p1esL6n 9vxets9qKC/gaKqWgKpmnGY/Aelw837FRc+QZcNz7am5pxm8hML4JvqpBN9NkA6F6iNXVbq8nK0+/L 5S7ivPNVM+Lfb/YoE0bu41VwBRjiN5FlDoz0Y99o1O83AQzUITO9/kEMUEVF7Qr04dOKjvPSsNDO5H HwUtGIJuuntACcErBaMS7G0D8Xu9zI0gTYKhgUUNIsEWc67s3v6sg0oDAyWDd08l0V751wOp0f/qRm FswOQQN9uAISDJ18QdJ0G1aRYx7/yrQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=arc-outbound20181012; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:dkim-signature:from; bh=EoL8Zq/6cdQ+D4rosnME6hrUup8ya7waLvL9fWT+DBM=; b=t9sO5287u1JxHeJbrcyYtczaxmU8iRIrzDZB4FZKtrgHPcokqi2sbvl2a6GXKMi+23aelyq/O0Gli VkGSUMqzkQ8mMv3xaqY3R9SDdzvfIKqd68P9E4BB5HJcrh1PIBUomAbafk9uhd/wgs+Ny06+7AdNRZ vnDaY/86G7KakxZPEBED5bWWZjgCmWkyAsGflFjkuCnm6KiCH1xvt1VZcmoljvsRQlzJHO7vHj5YJg wRXxdF8URLC3ZnVd5Cyev0ExJLNVHB59udOn7ehPdDNHWFR5/JfPOkzWtJPV5AuyKsRikTSzlJlESM OkGKIQ16xcvPiNHQIs26KctJEyIc1Uw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; outbound3.ore.mailhop.org; spf=softfail smtp.mailfrom=freebsd.org smtp.remote-ip=67.177.211.60; dmarc=none header.from=freebsd.org; arc=none header.oldest-pass=0; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=outbound.mailhop.org; s=dkim-high; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:content-type:references:in-reply-to: date:cc:to:from:subject:message-id:from; bh=EoL8Zq/6cdQ+D4rosnME6hrUup8ya7waLvL9fWT+DBM=; b=wK54Xlsl+mNQfQUmxHVP6oDTKzn+9CfPcA4NYaebwWdD9/Iyi02yi8vEBdCA1x9GgJSdB/dRk2MD7 7BgV5Fw+R0mXJDfXQvdXrhwJPDNO8qK6yR+3o26FwVM5ZFV3bi9MDmwXBcO8MlQbuQj+l4Jr8glsyf eEBTxsklKZFVb1dLVmioIOlB/qW+M4T/n9/gGhYvDmIwqLcXI565wxaJazAZ+yw9kGoCr25xMu61SH lcHgAyPe3Nl5qVA+Sxu4wjLqNazOrM21dyaTSQcY/9w9BGq5eyfVYC+2h+lIwTFjPYT2+uyrwJ4R0X Q9plHZF+DMkG3KHvelTMTVMIVcIk0gg== X-Originating-IP: 67.177.211.60 X-MHO-RoutePath: aGlwcGll X-MHO-User: d0c7fb80-9a0d-11eb-abd7-bf9d68d023b6 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (c-67-177-211-60.hsd1.co.comcast.net [67.177.211.60]) by outbound3.ore.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id d0c7fb80-9a0d-11eb-abd7-bf9d68d023b6; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 13AF2mj8008752; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:02:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <0ac501e9fb3d814435950b2141bd6d9332197a71.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Arm64 Tier 1 FreeBSD 13 Phones From: Ian Lepore To: grarpamp , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:02:48 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ASCII" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FHdXX6DSGz3QlQ X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:54.244.128.0/17, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:02:53 -0000 On Sat, 2021-04-10 at 04:07 -0400, grarpamp wrote: > FreeBSD Phones... > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5 > NXP i.MX 8M Quad core Cortex-A53, 64bit ARM > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PinePhone > Allwinner A64 ARM Quad core Cortex-A53 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c32-QOrI4cw > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCKMxzz9cjs > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVJo9faE1fM > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV0RnWorPpQ > > Happy hacking :) > Dream on. FreeBSD lacks the power-management infrastructure to run on battery-operated devices. The amount of work required to get there from here is almost unimaginable, and there are no big companies funding that kind of work (which is how linux got all that code). -- Ian