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Date:      Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:57:37 -0400 
From:      "Lee, Jaeho" <Jaeho.Lee@brooks.com>
To:        'Anis Badri' <anilinet2k@yahoo.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: DSL with earthlink in LA using ivasions winPoet
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I could setup DSL connection last week with help from this mailing list. 
So I am paying back. ^^
 
My FreeBSD box connects to Verizon DSL. They don't give static address
either.
I am using external DSL modem, which is connected through normal ethernet
card.
If your environment is same as mine, the following information will be
helpful.
 
Even though it is DHCP, I don't use dhcpclient for my ethernet card. (You
don't have to do either.)
Just setup as you use PPP. I followed this page till #4
http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ppp.html
<http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ppp.html>; 
 
And I used PPPoE. Here is resource.
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/pppoe.html
<http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/pppoe.html>; 
 
To use PPPoE, you need to rebuild kernel.
 
Please add this line in ppp.conf, so that your dns in resolv.conf is set
correctly.
    enable dns
 
Michael Nottebock gave me great information about the problem in userland
ppp.
I put some portion of his mail here.
 
"The pppd does not support pppoe
yet, but the userland ppp, which is also part of the freebsd base
system, does. The userland ppp also has a built-in nat feature, which
(of course) can be used with dsl-connections. So, in theory, 'ppp -nat'
should be all you need (apart from a kernel recompilation, where you
need to add the lines
options NETGRAPH
options NETGRAPH_SOCKET
options NETGRAPH_PPPOE
options NETGRAPH_ETHER # actually only necessary for old 4.0
# and 3.x systems, but
# cannot hurt anyway.
)
There is a technical issue with PPPoE-ADSL connections, though. The
maximum transfer unit via the PPPoE connection often is only 1492 bytes,
but the universal standard of common tcp/ip stacks is 1500 bytes. And,
instead of sending a message back telling the client to fragment the
packets, often the ISP's routers just discard the packet, with the
result that, for example certain webpages, simply won't load.
This problem does not necessarily affect you. Maybe, your ISP has it's
routers configured properly and the problem won't surface. Also, if you
are using FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE, downloaded at a later date than Dec. 18th,
2000 or FreeBSD-CURRENT, downloaded at a later date than Nov. 28th,
2000, the userland ppp is reported to already deal with this issue
gracefully. For almost every other version of freebsd, a backport from
the -current sources is available at http://www.awfulhak.org/ppp.html"
 
I hope this helps you.
 
Thanks,
/Jaeho
-----Original Message-----
From: Anis Badri [mailto:anilinet2k@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 1:21 PM
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: DSL with earthlink in LA using ivasions winPoet



I have been trying for several months to establish an internet connection
via earthlink DSL (DHCP) using my freeBsd box with no success.  They
(earthlink) do not provide for any OS other than win95/98.  They use
Ivasion's winpeot software package to establish a  PPP link.  I have gone
through several onlines docs to try to estabish a ppp connection with dhcp
and nothing has worked.  If someone has had the same experience with PPP and
DHCP on DSL can you please send me resources on how to go about setting up
an internet connection.  WinPoet has virtually no documentation on
implementation details.

Your help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Anis Tayebali

 




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<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2>I could setup DSL connection last week with help from this mailing list. 
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2>So I am paying back. ^^</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2>My FreeBSD box connects to Verizon DSL. They don't give static address 
either.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2>I am using external DSL modem, which is connected through normal ethernet 
card.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2>If your environment is same as mine, the following information will be 
helpful.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2>Even though it is DHCP, I don't use dhcpclient for my ethernet card. (You 
don't have to do either.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2>Just setup as you use PPP. I followed this page till 
#4</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2><A 
href="http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ppp.html">http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ppp.html</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>;
<DIV><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001>And I used PPPoE. Here is resource.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001><A 
href="http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/pppoe.html">http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/pppoe.html</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>;
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001>To use PPPoE, you need to rebuild 
kernel.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001>Please add this line in ppp.conf, so that your dns in 
resolv.conf is set correctly.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; enable dns</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001><FONT size=2>Michael Nottebock gave me great 
information about the problem in userland ppp.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001><FONT size=2>I put some portion of his mail 
here.</DIV></FONT></SPAN></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=060534819-09042001><FONT 
face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001>"</SPAN>The pppd does not support 
pppoe</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>yet, but the userland ppp, 
which is also part of the freebsd base</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>system, does. The userland 
ppp also has a built-in nat feature, which</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>(of course) can be used 
with dsl-connections. So, in theory, 'ppp -nat'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>should be all you need 
(apart from a kernel recompilation, where you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>need to add the 
lines</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>options 
NETGRAPH</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>options 
NETGRAPH_SOCKET</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>options 
NETGRAPH_PPPOE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>options NETGRAPH_ETHER # 
actually only necessary for old 4.0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2># and 3.x systems, 
but</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2># cannot hurt 
anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>There is a technical issue 
with PPPoE-ADSL connections, though. The</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>maximum transfer unit via 
the PPPoE connection often is only 1492 bytes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>but the universal standard 
of common tcp/ip stacks is 1500 bytes. And,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>instead of sending a 
message back telling the client to fragment the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>packets, often the ISP's 
routers just discard the packet, with the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>result that, for example 
certain webpages, simply won't load.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>This problem does not 
necessarily affect you. Maybe, your ISP has it's</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>routers configured properly 
and the problem won't surface. Also, if you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>are using FreeBSD 
4.2-STABLE, downloaded at a later date than Dec. 18th,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>2000 or FreeBSD-CURRENT, 
downloaded at a later date than Nov. 28th,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>2000, the userland ppp is 
reported to already deal with this issue</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2>gracefully. For almost 
every other version of freebsd, a backport from</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>the -current 
sources is available at http://www.awfulhak.org/ppp.html<SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001>"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001>I hope this helps you.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=060534819-09042001>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000a0 size=2>/Jaeho</FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Anis Badri 
[mailto:anilinet2k@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 09, 2001 1:21 
PM<BR><B>To:</B> freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG<BR><B>Subject:</B> DSL with 
earthlink in LA using ivasions winPoet<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P>I have been trying for several months to establish an internet connection via 
earthlink DSL (DHCP) using my freeBsd box with no success.&nbsp; They 
(earthlink) do not provide for any OS other than win95/98.&nbsp; They use 
Ivasion's winpeot software package to establish a&nbsp; PPP link.&nbsp; I have 
gone through several onlines docs to try to estabish a ppp connection with dhcp 
and nothing has worked.&nbsp; If someone has had the same experience with PPP 
and DHCP on DSL can you please send me resources on how to go about setting up 
an internet connection.&nbsp; WinPoet has virtually no documentation on 
implementation details.</P>
<P>Your help will be greatly appreciated.</P>
<P>Thanks</P>
<P>Anis Tayebali</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
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