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Date:      Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:35:06 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org, arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: [HEADSUP] making /bin/sh the default shell for root
Message-ID:  <202109292335.18TNZ6cc006285@slippy.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: <20210922083645.4vnoajyvwq6wfhdf@aniel.nours.eu>
References:  <20210922083645.4vnoajyvwq6wfhdf@aniel.nours.eu>

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In message <20210922083645.4vnoajyvwq6wfhdf@aniel.nours.eu>, Baptiste 
Daroussin
 writes:
> Hello,
>
> TL;DR: this is not a proposal to deorbit csh from base!!!
>
> For years now, csh is the default root shell for FreeBSD, csh can be confusin
> g
> as a default shell for many as all other unix like settled on a bourne shell
> compatible interactive shell: zsh, bash, or variant of ksh.
>
> Recently our sh(1) has receive update to make it more user friendly in
> interactive mode:
> * command completion (thanks pstef@)
> * improvement in the emacs mode, to make it behave by default like other shel
> ls
> * improvement in the vi mode (in particular the vi edit to respect $EDITOR)
> * support for history as described by POSIX.
>
> This makes it a usable shell by default, which is why I would like to propose
>  to
> make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE (not MFCed)
>
> If no strong arguments has been raised until October 15th, I will make this
> proposal happen.
>
> Again just in case: THIS IS NOT A PROPOSAL TO REMOVE CSH FROM BASE!

Having used /bin/sh as my root shell on all my FreeBSD machines, here and 
at $JOB, except for only one, I feel this is perfectly reasonable.


-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
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	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.





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