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Date:      Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:45:44 -0800
From:      Matthew Macy <mmacy@freebsd.org>
To:        Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
Cc:        alex.mckeever@sbcglobal.net, crees@physics.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Common Desktop Environment broken when compiling from ports tree on FreeBSD 12 RC3 (May also apply to the final build)
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Let's speak with a bit more precision.  PowerPC (32-bit), with only a
lingering handful of embedded uses is "dying" and is only marginally
more relevant than the likes of sparc64.

PPC64 with the advent of Power9 is the only real alternative platform
to amd64 in the data center and the only platform other than amd64 to
fully support modern graphics cards on FreeBSD. The limited volume of
Raptor motherboards means that NRE costs are reflected in the board
cost - so it will continue to be a niche solution, but it is
definitely not going away any time soon.



On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:32 PM Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> CC the package maintainer.
>
> As for powerpc on tier 1, I'm afraid that it's not likely to ever
> happen.  Powerpc is dying.  If anybody were buying new ppc hardware,
> then it would be a different story.  But I predict that powerpc is
> likely to be dropped than to go Tier 1.  Sorry.
>
> -Alan
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:42 PM Alex McKeever
> <alex.mckeever@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > I ran into problems compiling the CDE in FreeBSD 12.0 RC3 (PowerPC) on =
my eMac. It says it is broken and cannot be compiled. Also, any ETA on when=
 this port of the OS will go into Tier 1? Compiling software, desktop envir=
onments, X11, using 11.1 and the now unsupported 10.4 failed when I tried t=
hose a while back (and personally I have been partial to Linux and how easi=
ly I can just get software via APT or Zypper... I would be running Debian S=
id if they didn=E2=80=99t drop support for the eMac in terms of my internal=
 display not working after Jessie)
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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