From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 23:26:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7899916A4CE for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:26:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB7E43D46 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:26:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2QNQEb56964 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:02 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 In-Reply-To: <1006827290.20050326220154@wanadoo.fr> Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Anthony's drive issues.Re: ssh password delay X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:26:06 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Colin J. Raven writes: > >> How much time have you lost _just_ within the context of this thread >> alone? > > Not very much, although it was virtually a total waste. > Actually it was a waste to you because you don't want to try anything, but it wasn't a waste to others on the list. Anyone wanting to run FreeBSD on an old Vectra they have around if they search the list archives they are going to come across this thread, and be educated. > > Most have spent a lot of bandwidth on ad hominem (see your own post > for an example), and virtually none on constructive suggestions. And > of those who offered relatively constructive suggestions, most were > pure conjecture, often influenced by some sort of bias. > When trying to troubleshoot a problem you make a conjecture as to what the problem might be then you test for it. So of course, any constructive suggestion is going to be conjecture. Ted