From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 10 3:49:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from icon.bg (icon.bg [62.176.80.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77D2C37B423 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:49:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from v0rbiz@icon.bg) Received: (qmail 10029 invoked by uid 1144); 10 Apr 2001 10:53:56 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:53:56 +0300 From: Victor Ivanov To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) Message-ID: <20010410135356.A9992@icon.icon.bg> References: <3ACB4416.61A31902@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kupek@earthlink.net on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:43:00AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:43:00AM -0700, Scott wrote: > Kal Torak wrote: >=20 > > Infact I dont even see how anyone could call network scanning a crime... > > Its just like knocking on someones door to see if they are home, are we > > going to make that a crime as well? >=20 > This analogy has been made before, but network scanning isn't like knocki= ng > on someones door. Attempting to access an IP using Internet Explorer on p= ort > 80 is like knocking on someones door. Port/Network scanning amounts to go= ing > to someones house, peering in all of the windows, testing the door to see= if > its unlocked, and seeing if the attic vent was left open on accident. This > definitely should be illegal IMO... You can't confirm the connection for the peer. The peer confirms it. You on= ly "knock" and *the peer* opens it. If it says 'go away' you should go away. If it says 'welcome' you should not do anything bad. Only if it says 'welcome' AND you do something bad you go to jail.. eventually. IRL nobody says welco= me to strangers. But if you do, everybody says you're a very stupid person. Now stop making stupid analogies and start securing your servers. --=20 Players win and Winners play Have a lucky day --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBOtLmQvD9M5lef5W3AQE3gQQAiaV38cUMWyccTc+7TXAwhflv+0sXxd/n VRTmVtU+0ZBDTiJPKOohIj/RChPfLiKXNM9SkcA8Y6uP8S4cW4ceAXHRBd5n/v6r 7gNT466tsHlaGugiDrmHuqNQwDIuqock2hZOb0BU/uHYLHLwhPrYDTLo/EUk+0rp U0/l1AVONGk= =jYor -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message