From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Mar 1 18:11:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AED0437B719 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@gits.dyndns.org) Received: (qmail 16850619 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2001 02:11:07 -0000 Received: from d165.dhcp212-231.cybercable.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.231.165]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Mar 2001 02:11:07 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f222B4Z70068; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 03:11:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) From: Cyrille Lefevre Message-Id: <200103020211.f222B4Z70068@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: pkgtools In-Reply-To: <3A9EEF42.2743EE8F@pitt.edu> "from Pedro F. Giffuni at Mar 1, 2001 07:54:26 pm" To: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 03:11:03 +0100 (CET) Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, Ronald Joe Record , op-tech@openpackages.org Reply-To: clefevre@poboxes.com Organization: ACME X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > I think this was discussed long ago, my posting with the same URL must > be somewhere in the archives. for instance, I got the URL from Terry Lambert in the (big) Moving Things thread some days ago. > Back then the license was not considered a show stopper, but no one > got to port it because the functionality of those tools is very > similar to the ones already in FreeBSD. I would like to see this similar but not so powerfull. there is no file conflict checking, no auditing tool, file size/owner/group/permission/etc. aren't recorded anywhere, and more. and if we want to go in a modularized base system, we need something enough powerfull to handle those cases. > simply because they are sort of a standard for UNIX and we don't claim > to be non-UNIX. of course, we are, aren't we ? > In those days Ronald Record was also trying to free a bigger set of > C++ tools. I have used the installer on SCO's Unixware and it's very > nice, but that's IMHO. Packaging tools can be the root of another > religious war. what a pity if that happen (again?). we have to take the best from other systems, even SYSV and don't denigrate such tools because it came from SVR4 (or whatever). > Unfortunately the 86open effort died miserably with a "Linux seems > quite popular" comment after a long silence. RIP CC openpackages Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@poboxes.com UNIX is user-friendly; it's just particular work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr about who it chooses to be friends with. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message