From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Sep 17 12:57:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10705 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10700 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05846; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:57:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA03171; Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199609171957.MAA03171@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: XF86 & fvwm Problem, Help? (fwd) In-Reply-To: from Branson Matheson at "Sep 17, 96 09:42:42 am" To: branson@widomaker.com (Branson Matheson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: grog@lemis.de, jdunham@fc.net, questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL23 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Branson Matheson: > On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > > [[ ... ]] > > You're not sposta... seems that you forgot to leave in the lines that > I stated about testing with xdm -nodaemon!!!! xdm is _designed_ to > restart every time. and if you need a text terminal .. use the > to switch back to the console! to kill the xdm stuff... > you have to kill -TERM the xdm with the lowest pid. This will keep it > from re-spawning. If you use -HUP it will respawn right that second. > > > > If I've logged in as root I can > > > get back to the login screen, but I can't quit from there: ^D doesn't work > > > and neither does your suggestion of ^[alt]-[backspace]. > > > > ctrl-alt-backspace will kill the X server, which xdm will then > > cheerfully restart. > [[ ... ]] > > > > xdm is great for people who never want (nor need) to see a character > > mode display. Unfortunately, not everything runs under X, and xdm > > effectively takes away some of your freedom. I use xinit myself, and > > for the life of me I can't recall what the difference is from startx. > > Not much, anyway. You could consider them interchangeable. > > well kinda... xdm gives you an x interface when you want it.. but you > still have the option of getting the console interface at any time by > using . Just a little explanation: > > there are 12 syscons consoles compiled into the GENERIC kernel. 0,1,2 > are all setup to present you with a login prompt. 3 is the default > console to start your X session on... so you can still switch back > to the others using the . By way of note... you > can switch back to the x console using . > Hello, people, Doesn't this tips (saved from a posting last June) sum it up:: After adding the following line to /etc/ttys ttyv3 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure I found the X11 login screen appeared after bootup was completed. ?? This--setting up xdm to allow me to use the standard virtual consoles--remains one of my tweaks. I've found that pkg_add is one of the utilities that doesn't work correctly from an xterm. I was fumbling around, looking for netscape and arena and other packages. Having multiple terms is a major win; and having to reboot, single-user, to get the console display is a pain. Adding the ttyv3 line to /etc/ttys should do it. Hopefully... ! gary