From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Dec 28 18:00:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA15654 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15649 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA04830; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:37:44 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512290207.MAA04830@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: syscons driver To: kaleb@x.org (Kaleb S. KEITHLEY) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:37:44 +1030 (CST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512282118.VAA21806@exalt.x.org> from "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" at Dec 28, 95 04:18:03 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Kaleb S. KEITHLEY stands accused of saying: > > X won't really be OK until it's easier to *install and configure*. :-( > > Lessee. > > Install: %gunzip -c .tar.gz | tar xf - > > Dunno what's so hard about that. You're looking from the wrong perspective. That's _very_ hard for someone who doesn't grok unix; imagine how difficult it is trying to pronounce the above line over a bad phone line to someone... On the other hand "Select 'X installation' from the menu, and answer the questions" is a lot easier. > Configure: Have you tried xvidtune? Look on the CDs WC is shipping. > Start with one of the Official VESA modes from the modeDB file, start > the server, then tune it with xvidtune. People who want to tweak the > last iota of bandwidth should expect to do a little work to calculate > what their monitor and card can do, and then finish up with xvidtune. Still too hard. Xvidtune needs to be able to write to the config file, or something else needs to catch its output and deal with it. > It can be done in five minutes or less, depending on how fast you can > copy lines out of modeDB into XF86Config :-). The last one I set up took > me less than two minutes to set up 1280x1024. If you know what you're doing, sure. If all you've ever used is Windows, it's a very daunting task. We're not suggesting that level of drool-proofness, but an approach that might make it a little easier for a seasoned Windows user to get configured and up to speed without the excess of grief that's currently involved. > Kaleb KEITHLEY -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[