From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Aug 3 05:26:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA02910 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA02905 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 05:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25770; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:25:38 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id OAA09180; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:25:15 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.Alpha.7/keltia-uucp-2.9) id OAA02812; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:10:26 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199608031210.OAA02812@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:10:26 +0200 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail (8bit char problem?) In-Reply-To: <199608030852.KAA29144@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de>; from Christoph P. Kukulies on Aug 3, 1996 10:52:30 +0200 References: <199608030852.KAA29144@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Christoph P. Kukulies: > Sorry, I hand edited that line (some lines in the header) to avoid posting > overly long lines. So I don't believe that's the problem. OK. > How can I tell which one? Isn't it obvious from the headers that there are > arvidsjaur.anu.edu.au and gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de envolved in the > mail transfer? There are two problems: - It is "gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de", running sendmail 8.6.11 (you MUST upgrade BTW, it has some security problems, use only 8.7.5). 8.6.* doesn't advertise the ESMTP extention called 8BITMIME so the mailer on arvidsjaur.anu.edu.au has rewritten the message in Quoted-Unreadable. As it is not able to correctly label the message, it uses Unknown-8bit as the charset. Using 8.7.5 would solve the problem on this side. - ELM-ME+ is not able to display "Unknown-8bit"-labelled text, even if you put it in compatcharset. This is a misfeature IMO and Mutt, the MUA I use now, display it correctly with the following warning (as Elm): ------------------------------------------------------------ [Warning! UNKNOWN-8BIT charset is not compatible with your display.] SAMBA Digest 1013 For information on unsubscribing and on what is appropriate to post to this list see ftp://samba.anu.edu.au/pub/lists/samba.txt ------------------------------------------------------------ The solution I offer is to switch to Mutt from Elm. The author is Michael Elkins, known for the original ME patches to Elm and the PGP/MIME RFC draft. See (it is a SmartList list) The PGP-aware version, export-restricted has appeared on a german site, look in the mail archive to find it. The look and feel is based on Elm (even if the display has chaned now). It is highly configurable (key bindings, display formats...). You'll need the following patch to build 0.38 on FreeBSD: Index: curs_lib.c =================================================================== RCS file: /build/master/mail/mutt/curs_lib.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.2 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -2 -r1.1.1.2 -r1.2 --- curs_lib.c 1996/07/28 16:21:23 1.1.1.2 +++ curs_lib.c 1996/07/29 04:47:11 1.2 @@ -16,4 +16,6 @@ */ +#include /* needed for HAVE_SYS_PARAM_H */ + #ifdef HAVE_SYS_PARAM_H #include /* needed for definition of BSD on BSD-ish systems. */ Even as alpha code, I'm convinced that Mutt is a very good MUA and I've switched permanently now... -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #16: Sun Jul 21 13:26:53 MET DST 1996