From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 2 10:37:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA23315 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw-fr1.etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23308 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA29739; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:45:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:45:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199610021745.NAA29739@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Terry Lambert From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: isdn code Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > To the rest on this line: Dennis doesn't like ISDN, and will try to >> > put it down as much as possible to boost his own Frame Relay stuff, >> >> Wasn't this Terry ? ;-) > >No; I favor frame relay because I can go over 64k without bonding and >over 128k at all. I also favor it for an ISP because I need only one >connection termination for the cloud, and I don't have to buy DSU's and >routers and fan out cards. > >I could, if I wanted, terminate the T1 to the cloud at my NSP and have >no real transport overhead, as an ISP offering FR end-pointing. For >a 50% peak bandwith overcommit, I can charge about $80/Month in a US West >service area. This is about $220/Month cheaper than ISDN and still >leaves me $60k/year to run a support desk. If I increase my overcommit, >or my charges, it gives me some slack, some profit taking, and some >expansion capitol. This argument, again, is somewhat misguided, as you can certainly run frame relay over ISDN. My original comment was that ISDN is simply transport.... its not a networking protocol, and is not directly comparible to frame relay. The ppp / HDLC comment simply pointed out that saying that one is better than the other has no meaning since ppp often runs over HDLC. Dennis