From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 8 23:16:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75F016A400 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eric@anholt.net) Received: from leguin.anholt.net (69-30-77-85.dq1sn.easystreet.com [69.30.77.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BF343D45 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:16:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eric@anholt.net) Received: from leguin.anholt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leguin.anholt.net (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k38NG4me076470; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@anholt.net) Received: (from anholt@localhost) by leguin.anholt.net (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id k38NG3Ch076469; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 16:16:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@anholt.net) X-Authentication-Warning: leguin.anholt.net: anholt set sender to eric@anholt.net using -f From: Eric Anholt To: Fred Cox In-Reply-To: <20060408195840.39428.qmail@web31810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060408195840.39428.qmail@web31810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-AidNgA6rvb9LTXFQNlEU" Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:16:01 -0700 Message-Id: <1144538161.7017.92.camel@leguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.4.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Jason Morgan Subject: Re: X troubles (possibly radeon related) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:16:06 -0000 --=-AidNgA6rvb9LTXFQNlEU Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 12:58 -0700, Fred Cox wrote: > Several people have reported problems with X.org 6.9 > and Radeon X300, which were "solved" by going back to > 6.8.2. This includes total machine lockup with the > default vga driver as well as various ati and radeon > drivers. >=20 > Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any visible > action on the problem. I get no response when I email > the Xorg maintainer. >=20 > I don't think they want to believe they've broken > something. They want to blame the drivers. I did respond to your email. I don't have any response from you. Your (private, for some unknown reason) message gave a line with "vga0" from dmesg that's irrelevant to X's behavior, making me suspect that you were still using the radeon driver in X, not vga as you claimed. The radeon driver in 6.9 (as with 6.8.2, 6.8.1, 6.8.0, 6.7.0, XFree86 4.4, etc.) had major issues. The major issues have changed from release to release, as fixes were applied for some chipset that broke another. It's really actually hard to get this memory mapping stuff right for ATI. It's quite possible that benh has fixed them now in the latest releases of the ATI driver -- he's studied the problems more in-depth than anyone before, so the latest radeon driver is probably good when combined with a good DRM and good DRI drivers. We have none of these in FreeBSD currently. --=20 Eric Anholt anholt@FreeBSD.org eric@anholt.net eric.anholt@intel.com --=-AidNgA6rvb9LTXFQNlEU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEOEQxHUdvYGzw6vcRAjH6AJ9VipLiwYeZedV48rhe9NzEdywvWACeKKnV M2EuqSsaNMJchyk9olgFwDk= =MnU7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-AidNgA6rvb9LTXFQNlEU--