From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon May 7 15: 1:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB4E37B422; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:01:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 118175D60; Tue, 8 May 2001 00:01:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 00:01:56 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: David O'Brien Cc: hubs@freebsd.org, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master Message-ID: <20010508000155.D42208@skriver.dk> References: <20010507125604P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010507231953.A41580@skriver.dk> <20010507142813.A12106@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010507142813.A12106@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 02:28:13PM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 02:28:13PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 11:19:53PM +0200, Jesper Skriver wrote: > > I would suggest to remove the following from the ftp server too, it's > > really better to access the source tree via cvsup, cvsweb, as a .tar.gz > > or similar methods, and the thousands of files makes it a pain to mirror. > > This makes it pain for people wanting to get our source code to look at > for reference or use in non-FreeBSD projects. IMHO CVSweb sucks for > anything other than using it as a "one off" ``cvs log''. If one wants > all the files to say src/bin/sh, CVSweb is a difficult way to get them. > Same for CVSup for non-FreeBSD users. > > > Same goes with the ports > > pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/ > > pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/ports/ > > pub/FreeBSD/branches/*/ports/ > > I have to 100% totally disagree here. I point many people to the checked > out ports tree to get newer bits. You are thinking as a FreeBSD Power > User here who probably runs -current. Not in the mind of a lot of our > Linux converts. You're probably right, but I havn't seen anyone downloading any of those files from ftp.dk.FreeBSD.org in the last weeks ... > > And perhaps make a decistion regarding if we should distribute snapshots > > from ftp.freebsd.org, or only from current.freebsd.org (and then > > transfer the alpha snapshots there instead of ftp-master). > > Perhaps we should just go out of the FTP distribution business. IMHO it > does not seem you really want to be a FTP mirror. No need to be agressive, as I said on IRC, I'll mirror whatever is on ftp-master, but I was just trying to make a suggesion. > I have always kept one usable Alpha -current snapshot on the FTP site. > current.freebsd.org isn't mirrored, thus anyone wanting to access it has > to do to that one site. I don't have anything against the alpha snapshots being there, but then I'd suggest keeping i386 snaps there too, so we won't confuse our users. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message