From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Nov 4 17:40:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA26918 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:40:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from usr02.primenet.com (tlambert@usr02.primenet.com [206.165.6.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA26912 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:40:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr02.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr02.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02677; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:40:10 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199711050140.SAA02677@usr02.primenet.com> Subject: Re: mv /usr/src/games /dev/null - any objections? To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:40:09 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, gdk@ccomp.inode.COM, jkh@time.cdrom.COM, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971105105542.14468@lemis.com> from "Greg Lehey" at Nov 5, 97 10:55:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > They mumble at you like they mumbled at Jordan, and they're in > > your competition space. > > That's like saying you can find bugs in code because they cause > SIGSEGVs. Welcome to "Introduction to Fuzzy Sets, 101". That's a good analogy, in fact, since you *can* find bugs after the fact by looking at the stack traceback from the core. > > Doesn't Walnut Creek or FreeBSD, Inc. have a lawyer on retainer > > who is at least willing to test the water with an "Apple vs. Apple" > > citation in a response letter? > > I don't know, but I'm sure he would want money on a per-case basis. > Are you prepared to front it up? Do you know what a "retainer" is? It's what you pay a lawyer to do minimal work for you on an "as needed" basis so that you don't have to pay him money on a case-by-case basis. > I agree with Jordan that we want to avoid legal hassles wherever > possible. I get the impression that he's going overboard in throwing > out all games, but I don't care too much, especially if they're > available as ports. US politicians negotiate after terrorist kidnappings. Israeli politicians bomb terrorists families in retribution after terrorist kidnappings. Guess which country has fewer citizens held hostage at any one time? If you bend over for jerks, you only make yourself a target for more jerks. Besides, I don't think their lawyers honestly understand the situation, and rather than setting a *bad* precedent, it's worth one letter attempting to clarify their understanding, and preclude similar situations in the future. I can't believe that *no one else* thinks that it's a *terrible* thing to tacitly confirm that the FreeBSD program name space equals the US trademark name space?!? Or that this posit is even *capable* of being *in any way* true?!? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.