From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 19 19:30:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711F21065670 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CB88FC20 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so426434bwz.43 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:30:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=g7kyrPhB0D2QSty5g9xJQ77mYAjlxhpvjMldiRxXv0U=; b=fO5QACZ9K2bh7dyU4CLepyUXHz1fUqw7cfwyjzzo24mgk8lzJTcyRf5DcBDWG3Lws5 U3luMhSKyuymBaboQJ3VCGuaWerX8Zy5HYzJSoh5I23n9O09iSOk36nEcbqS7SGB+GnG tv0FcCahdntgtN8fdQbYNYu/Ew95cXvDdTNK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=R7JW53d+Z2SXWdJSxFbIr0CtIbqnNhz4eUwxWZIxBKij/IePjoOb9VqMdgF81dPmas 8d/66lrqZKvsZczcql3MFeUUMe4OxWprifxefrvYFB7mOm0KwFPtatfbLATunh2fnGnu KItYrUmUgCzk82HTIOEuWiuqi7DX40QrSCuzY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.134.140 with SMTP id 12mr236013hbz.155.1245439839448; Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:30:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3c1674c90906191146x551e70cdl564e6a0d59941484@mail.gmail.com> References: <735E59909DEB44AF92825EA7C65CF430@ionicoffice.ionic.co.uk> <200906190623.10417.andres@msu.edu> <20090619182326.GX12531@manor.msen.com> <3c1674c90906191146x551e70cdl564e6a0d59941484@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:30:39 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Kip Macy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Open Vs Free BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:30:41 -0000 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Kip Macy wrote: > Individuals in each of the camps (Free, Open, Net) are frequently > deeply invested in their platforms of choice to the point where they > identify with them. In addition, many if not most of us are only > familiar with one of them. Thus, it isn't really fair to ask us to > compare the three. You will enjoy more success by asking each of the > three projects what their respective strengths are. > > > Cheers, > Kip > During reading of questions and answers to such comparison issues it is possible to observe one very important ( in my opinion , missing ) concept : In engineering , there is no an abstract < better than > concept by itself . As an example we may compare : bicycle , motorcycle , car , lorry , bus . aeroplane , boat , ship , transatlantic , train , ... Which one is better than the other one ? If you give an answer that < x is better than y > you are implicitly using a MEASURE of COMPARISON to solve a PROBLEM . When that the very MEASURE of COMPARISON for the PROBLEM is not specified , the abstract comparison is NOT useful and meaningful . For that reason , it is useful at the beginning to give a description of the problem in precise terms and then ask which tool solves this problem with respect to the others with respect to advantages and disadvantages of the tools . After enumerating these ideas it is possible to make decisions to select an appropriate one which solves the problem as much as possible . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk