From owner-cvs-all Wed Dec 9 22:50:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA10037 for cvs-all-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09987; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:49:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA03504; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:19:37 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id RAA35749; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:19:22 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981210171921.M12688@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:19:21 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Steve Price , Joseph Koshy Cc: committers@hub.freebsd.org, vanmaren@fast.cs.utah.edu Subject: Re: Swat teams (was: problem reports) References: <199812100546.VAA04000@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Steve Price on Thu, Dec 10, 1998 at 12:44:21AM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thursday, 10 December 1998 at 0:44:21 -0600, Steve Price wrote: > On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Joseph Koshy wrote: > > # > From what I've seen, the big problem is not the cases where people > # > submit patches, but where they submit PRs with no fix and with hardly > # > enough information to guess what the problem is (or even if there is a > # > problem). > # > # There are many of those no doubt. However, a lot of our PR submitters are > # quite knowledgeable and do submit patches. We should give PRs with patches > # a higher priority. Even if the patch is wrong, it is a sign that the PR > # submitter did put in some work before filing the PR. > > Actually there are quite a few more good ones than bad ones. > But you're right, working on PRs with fixes (and close counts > too) is the best bang for our buck. To a great extent this is a matter of definition. Yesterday I was wondering whether to submit an enhancement to ls which would enable you to list files by size (ls -lS). Sure, big deal, but some people thought that it was silly that ls couldn't do this. It was trivial to implement, of course, and worked, but in the end I agreed with Jordan that it wasn't the UNIX Way. On the other hand, you could define this as more ``bang per buck'' than, say, finding why some people can't run sysctl -a correctly on their systems. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message