From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 19 4:25:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6628837B400 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE0143E31 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ripper@eskimo.com) Received: from eskimo.com (ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA16793 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:25:23 -0700 Received: (from ripper@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id EAA13426; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200207191125.EAA13426@eskimo.com> From: Ross Lippert To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: [MAILER-DAEMON@eskimo.com: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: ibm.net: no data known)] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apparently the maintainer of the PPP primer has changed addresses or something. I found his use of 127.x.x.x addr's to be a source of trouble on 4.6 and I wanted to tell him so. OK, well a formal doc-pr I guess will follow. -r ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:22:54 -0700 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="EAA15916.1027077774/mx1.eskimo.com" Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: ibm.net: no data known) Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:22:54 -0700 from ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown (Name server: ibm.net: no data known) Press C-c C-c here for "message/delivery-status" data Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:22:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Ross Lippert To: sims@ibm.net Subject: P PPP P Hi, FreeBSD recently made 127.x.x.x addresses entirely local in order to comply with some RFC someone found as well as some firewall software users wanted to use. The issue was that traffic to 127.x.x.x addr's should not leave the machine ever. This makes the 127.x.x.x numbers very bad to use as bogus addr's in the PPP primer. I just tried out PPP with a conf in which set ifaddr 127.1.1.1/0 127.2.2.2/0 255.255.255.0 add 0 0 127.2.2.2 and got some very nasty messages about routes already existing and other weirdness when I tried using PPP. The dialup connection would occur, but I could not ping anything, even by IP addr. I changed the lines to set ifaddr 10.1.1.127/0 10.2.2.127/0 255.255.255.0 add 0 0 10.2.2.127 And everything worked fine. I think your primer needs to use better fake addr's. If you want me to write a formal PR for this I will. Or if you no longer maintain the PPP primer, I'll see what I can do to get something committed. BTW PPPPP was an excellent resource when I was first setting up my home network. Thanks. - -r  -=- MIME -=-  This is a MIME-encapsulated message --EAA15916.1027077774/mx1.eskimo.com The original message was received at Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:22:54 -0700 from ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 ... Host unknown (Name server: ibm.net: no data known) --EAA15916.1027077774/mx1.eskimo.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; mx1.eskimo.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; eskimo.com Arrival-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:22:54 -0700 Final-Recipient: RFC822; sims@ibm.net Action: failed Status: 5.1.2 Remote-MTA: DNS; ibm.net Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:22:54 -0700 --EAA15916.1027077774/mx1.eskimo.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from eskimo.com (ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15914 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:22:54 -0700 Received: (from ripper@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id EAA13376; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200207191122.EAA13376@eskimo.com> From: Ross Lippert To: sims@ibm.net Subject: P PPP P Hi, FreeBSD recently made 127.x.x.x addresses entirely local in order to comply with some RFC someone found as well as some firewall software users wanted to use. The issue was that traffic to 127.x.x.x addr's should not leave the machine ever. This makes the 127.x.x.x numbers very bad to use as bogus addr's in the PPP primer. I just tried out PPP with a conf in which set ifaddr 127.1.1.1/0 127.2.2.2/0 255.255.255.0 add 0 0 127.2.2.2 and got some very nasty messages about routes already existing and other weirdness when I tried using PPP. The dialup connection would occur, but I could not ping anything, even by IP addr. I changed the lines to set ifaddr 10.1.1.127/0 10.2.2.127/0 255.255.255.0 add 0 0 10.2.2.127 And everything worked fine. I think your primer needs to use better fake addr's. If you want me to write a formal PR for this I will. Or if you no longer maintain the PPP primer, I'll see what I can do to get something committed. BTW PPPPP was an excellent resource when I was first setting up my home network. Thanks. -r --EAA15916.1027077774/mx1.eskimo.com-- ------- End of forwarded message ------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message