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Date:      Mon, 14 Dec 2015 10:13:56 -0600
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Updating / keeping current strategies?
Message-ID:  <566EEAC4.1060306@denninger.net>
In-Reply-To: <10BBDDBB-75AA-4034-B494-9EB28D009882@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
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On 12/8/2015 09:41, Paul Mather wrote:
> On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> wrote:=

>
>> What are people doing in this regard with devices like the Raspberry P=
i2?
>>
>> Build times for a "make buildworld" are measured in (many) hours to a
>> day or more and require a USB-attached disk for temporary storage, as
>> the ramdisk for /tmp that is typically mounted blows up due to lack of=

>> space and SD cards are slow enough on writes (especially small writes)=

>> as to make the process virtually impossible.  But even with a
>> USB-attached disk the process is ridiculous in terms of consumed
>> walllclock time.
>>
>> Further, "make installworld" sometimes fails inexplicably.
>>
>> Kernel builds are a bit more reasonable, only requiring a couple of ho=
urs.
>>
>> I'm wondering what the best option is to not only build current code o=
n
>> a regular basis (since -CURRENT is a "work in progress") but also to
>> deploy and update existing devices.  What are people doing that has a
>> history of working well?
> I cross-build kernel and world on a FreeBSD/amd64 system.  It takes abo=
ut 30 minutes to do a full buildkernel and buildworld there.  Then, when =
I want to update my Raspberry Pi, I shut down the Pi and move the SD card=
 from it to the FreeBSD/amd64 system.  Having mounted the SD card, I cros=
s-install kernel and world onto the SD card and then run mergemaster agai=
nst it.  I use the wrapper script from https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/a=
rm/crossbuild to make things easier.
>
> After updating the SD card, I unmount it from the FreeBSD/amd64 system =
and move it back to the Raspberry Pi.  Finally, I boot up the Raspberry P=
i.
>
> This has proved a reliable way for me to update my Raspberry Pi and Bea=
gleBone Black.  The manual step of moving the SD card isn't ideal, but ha=
s proved to be the most pragmatic approach for me.  (Clang seems more rel=
iable on FreeBSD/amd64, for one.:)  Someone suggested once to do the cros=
s build/install on the FreeBSD/amd64 system and then rsync over to the Pi=
/BBB to update the SD card, but I could never get that to work.  Similarl=
y, I could never get a NFS install to work either.  To be fair, I didn't =
troubleshoot that problem very much.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
There seem to be some problems with this in the general sense, unless
you're willing to move the media around (I'm generally not.)

Using that script in the Wiki appears to work, but there are problems.=20
If you try to nfs mount the object and source directories on the target
so you can do a "make installworld" or "make installkernel" on the
target you quickly find that clang wasn't cross-built in the object
directory; the "tmp" directory in object contains a copy of it, but it's
compiled for your _*source*_ machine (in this case FreeBSD/amd64) and
the install blows up as it can't determine the cc version.  The
interesting thing is that what's in ~/nfsroot/usr/bin/cc is correct
which doesn't appear to make sense, but it is what it is.

I'm going to see if I can get a rsync-type thing to work....

--=20
Karl Denninger
karl@denninger.net <mailto:karl@denninger.net>
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