From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 18 18:44:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5C916A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:44:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (ns1.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878DA43D4C for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:44:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from micheal@tsgincorporated.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.tsgincorporated.com [127.0.0.1]) by smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC3F3CDF6C; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:44:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 00479-08; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:44:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.tsgincorporated.com (lanmail.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.29]) by smtpgate.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE3E3CDF6F; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:44:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from micheal (micheal.tsgincorporated.com [67.66.242.77]) by mail.tsgincorporated.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 169D2952843; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:44:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <17ce01c54447$060e1480$4df24243@tsgincorporated.com> From: "Micheal Patterson" To: "Chad Morland" , References: <7a.718eeb0b.2f93e044@aol.com> <8ca932905041811102d2edd83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:46:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tsgincorporated.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newbie question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:44:52 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad Morland" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: Re: newbie question On 4/17/05, SuDaNym@aol.com wrote: > Hello > > Can anyone give me a very rough estimate on how much time is required on an > ongoing basis, after a server is set up with FreeBSD and Apache, to maintain > everything. By everything I am referring to everything required to keep the > server up, and host about 100 domains. Thank you in advance and I apologize > if this question is not appropriate for this list. > > Sue If you will be doing this as a business venture I HIGHLY recommend that you either get a managed server or hire someone to help you admin the server when you are stuck. There are many people out there that offer this service. Go to any webhosting forum and ask for some referrals. The reason I say this is because it seems that A LOT of people think they can make a quick buck off of webhosting without any "real" work. These are usually the companies that fail quickly and give the hosting industry a bad name. Running any type of business requires some thought and experience. There are a lot of minor issues that will stump a self described "newbie" and having someone there to assist you will make your life and the life of your clients that much easier. -CM Good advice Chad. Even for those that have been admin'ing *Nix boxes for years get stumped by the most simplest of things at times. We rarely admit it, but it happens. Some additional things to consider if you plan on hosting sites as a business. o CGI access requirements of your clients. o DNS, SMTP, POP3 requirements for your clients. These usually go hand in hand with web hosting these days. o The ability for them to update pages properly on their own (ftp / front page requirements / access) o The responsibility to ensure that the software is patched quickly as needed (perl, php, mysql to name a few) o Spam / AV filtering (do they want it? Do they not care?, Are they going to trip out if you start filtering their mail?, etc) o Are you going to host these on static IP's? If you're going to provide SSL enabled sites, you have no choice since you can't use SSL on name based virtual hosting. o Are you going to need to do virtual domain maps for the users that require / use email services? A sundry of other items that are just too numerous to mention. I'm not trying to scare anyone away from it, far from it, just trying to add my .02 to the discussion of things to consider before you decide that hosting is the thing for you. -- Micheal Patterson Senior Communications Systems Engineer 405-917-0600 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.