From owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org Thu Sep 12 13:33:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA57F696F for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from slim.berklix.org (slim.berklix.org [94.185.90.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "slim.berklix.org", Issuer "slim.berklix.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46TfqL6flqz4Gp0 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p2E52CA1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.82.202.29]) (authenticated bits=128) by slim.berklix.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x8CDXSUi084639 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Sep 2019 15:33:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id x8CDXRRH049141; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 15:33:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x8CDX9RM082940; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 15:33:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201909121333.x8CDX9RM082940@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users" cc: "http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users" Subject: Fallback list http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com/jhs http://stolenvotes.uk User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.eu/free/ X-From: http://www.berklix.eu/~jhs/ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 15:33:09 +0200 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46TfqL6flqz4Gp0 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jhs@berklix.com has no SPF policy when checking 94.185.90.68) smtp.mailfrom=jhs@berklix.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.75 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; URL_IN_SUBJECT(1.00)[mailman.berklix.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.56)[-0.561,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.60)[-0.599,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[berklix.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[68.90.185.94.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:33824, ipnet:94.185.88.0/22, country:DE]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[ip: (0.06), ipnet: 94.185.88.0/22(0.03), asn: 33824(-0.01), country: DE(-0.01)]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[29.202.82.46.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10] X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:33:36 -0000 For list: https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users There is now a fallback: http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users It only accepts from subscribed addresses. It's not moderated. Created as freebsd.org support of CTM deltas is not good: - Over a month, deltas have been delayed at @freebsd.org (No delays on berklix.org equivalent lists) - CTM was moved from src to ports - 3 months of ignored mails to freebsd.org admins to create src-12 before we gave up & created our own. - freebsd.org abandoned its ftp archives of deltas - Handbook has had some refs to CTM removed. - Periodicly non CTM users question the status of CTM. We can continue just using while it works, but if it fails, the fallback is ready, you'll need to subscribe: http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, Consultant Sys. Eng. BSD Linux Unix, Munich Aachen Kent. http://stolenvotes.uk#StopTheCoup http://berklix.org/brexit/#snouts_in_trough UK stole 3.7 M votes from Brits abroad; 2.4 M now > 18 had no vote; 1.6 M old died; Minority PM of the 350 M Red Bus Lie = Hard Brexit = Crash & violence. Parliament suspension unlawful https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-49661855