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Date:      Thu, 12 Sep 2019 15:33:09 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
To:        "https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users" <ctm-users@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users" <ctm-users@mailman.berklix.org>
Subject:   Fallback list http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users
Message-ID:  <201909121333.x8CDX9RM082940@fire.js.berklix.net>

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For list:
	https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users
	<ctm-users@freebsd.org> 
There is now a fallback:
	http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users
	<ctm-users@mailman.berklix.org>
It only accepts from subscribed addresses. It's not moderated.

Created as freebsd.org support of CTM deltas is not good:
- Over a month, deltas have been delayed at @freebsd.org
  (No delays on berklix.org equivalent lists)
- CTM was moved from src to ports
- 3 months of ignored mails to freebsd.org admins to create
  src-12 before we gave up & created our own.
- freebsd.org abandoned its ftp archives of deltas 
- Handbook has had some refs to CTM removed.
- Periodicly non CTM users question the status of CTM.

We can continue just using <ctm-users@freebsd.org> while it works,
but if it fails, the fallback is ready, you'll need to subscribe:
	http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo/ctm-users

Cheers,
Julian
-- 
Julian Stacey, Consultant Sys. Eng. BSD Linux Unix, Munich Aachen Kent.
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UK stole 3.7 M votes from Brits abroad; 2.4 M now > 18 had no vote; 1.6 M old
died; Minority PM of the 350 M Red Bus Lie = Hard Brexit = Crash & violence.
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