From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 4 12:32: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355B337B401 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com (bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.104]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBBE43E6E for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:32:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hawkeyd@visi.com) Received: from sheol.localdomain (hawkeyd-fw.dsl.visi.com [208.42.101.193]) by bodb.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26B64D7A; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:43:36 -0600 (CST) Received: (from hawkeyd@localhost) by sheol.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gA4EhWI54724; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:43:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hawkeyd) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:43:32 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200211041443.gA4EhWI54724@sheol.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 1.0c.0 Reply-To: hawkeyd@visi.com Organization: if (!FIFO) if (!LIFO) break; References: <1036382137.57682.25.camel_lobo@ns.sol.net> <20021104041757.5805.qmail_web10402.mail.yahoo.com@ns.sol.net> In-Reply-To: <20021104041757.5805.qmail_web10402.mail.yahoo.com@ns.sol.net> From: hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) Subject: Re: Window/File Manager X-Original-Newsgroups: sol.lists.freebsd.questions To: bsdbrett@yahoo.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <20021104041757.5805.qmail_web10402.mail.yahoo.com@ns.sol.net>, bsdbrett@yahoo.com.au writes: > >> What are your favorite ultra-light WM's and/or FMs? >> I'm just looking for >> something that does the job, looking nice would be >> an added benefit but >> I doubt I'll have a high color depth to play with >> anyway. > > You can't go wrong with Blackbox (or fluxbox, which is > very similar). It can look as detailed or as simple as > you want. I use it on my low spec laptop and > workstations. If you want a nice looking theme, I > suggest 'AlmostX', but you might want to get rid of > some of the gradients in it, as rendering them chew > unnecessary CPU power. It's been quite usable on my > p120 thinkpad. With a fairly "rich" configuration, how small is fluxbox's footprint? I just had a peek at fluxbox's source, and I see that gradient shading is done with X pixmaps. If they're cached (by color and/or size?), this is rather memory hungry, no? I run vtwm with a rather "rich" setup on FreeBSD 4.5-REL-p22, XF86 4.2.0, TrueColor visual, and top shows the following: PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 49880 hawkeyd 2 0 3092K 2496K select 0:16 0.00% 0.00% vtwm It does cache pixmaps by size and color, but for the most part they're small - titlebar buttons. I use sound effects, too, which are cached by the rplay daemon: PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 174 root 2 0 2000K 1460K select 4:15 0.00% 0.00% rplayd So, vtwm's total footprint is about 5.1Mb, about 3.9Mb being resident. How does that fair against fluxbox or blackbox? As X pixmaps are server-cached, how can one [easily] tell how much memory is used for them? > As far as file managers go, I would suggest perhaps > XFtree from XFce. I've not used every file manager, > but I have used this in the past, its been good and > has a small footprint. You can assign file > associations too. > > I've used these both in the past, in a sort of hybrid > blackbox-xfce manner, and it served me well. Midnight Commander in an xterm. :-) Dave -- Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message