From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 18 04:14:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EF7106564A for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1F08FC0A for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg13 with SMTP id 13so1747216gyg.13 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.248.4 with SMTP id v4mr2295245anh.83.1303100086273; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bhuda.mired.org (h4.173.90.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net [75.90.173.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4sm5105468ana.23.2011.04.17.21.14.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:14:39 -0400 From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110418001439.3e4237dd@bhuda.mired.org> In-Reply-To: References: <8CDCA9824BFE47E-176C-A720@web-mmc-d04.sysops.aol.com> <20110416233839.GA72223@DataIX.net> Organization: Meyer Consulting X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.7 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Add SUM sysctl X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:14:47 -0000 On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:11:03 +0300 Daniel Braniss wrote: > when something gets too complicated, it's usualy helpful to look for other ways > out: > the /(root) + /usr + kernel-debuging + src is less than 1GB, so what I > do (when diskless is not an option), I have a 2 partitions, both bootable, > and so i ALWAYS update the non active one, then > 1- I always have a working / in case the update screwed something > 2- I can update without problems. A number of people have mentioned this, but none have pointed out that with a ZFS system, you don't even have to keep a spare partition around to do this. Cryx provided this script (http://anonsvn.h3q.com/projects/freebsd-patches/browser/manageBE/manageBE) which makes updating a FreeBSD system as simple any Unix system I've seen. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Software developer/SCM consultant, email for more information. O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org