From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 6 6: 4:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CABA37B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:04:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BB91310F411; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:04:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:04:24 -0500 From: "David W . Chapman Jr ." To: Jamie Norwood Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Any patch for fxp driver? Message-ID: <20010606080424.A25874@leviathan.inethouston.net> Reply-To: "David W . Chapman Jr ." Mail-Followup-To: Jamie Norwood , FreeBSD Stable References: <20010605142209.C15350@leviathan.inethouston.net> <200106060148.f561mFn25570@whizzo.transsys.com> <20010605205641.A2897@leviathan.inethouston.net> <20010606090029.A2669@mushhaven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010606090029.A2669@mushhaven.net>; from mistwolf@mushhaven.net on Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 09:00:29AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I again have to express my concerns about major changes like this being > made with little or no warning or recourse. As I stated previously, I run > FreeBSD on a box I have no access to. This means that I cannot go in and > tinker with the Bios. The colo provider would do this, but at the cost of > $200/hour, minimum one hour. This is something that is supposed to be set on installation per instructions of the handbook. > I again ask, why was it acceptable to make such a major and far-reaching > change without any warning, input from the people actually running the > system, or proper testing? Was fixing this for people with new hardware > worth breaking those with old? Have we become Linux, where we have to have > bleeding-edge support for hardware at the expense of reliability? Should > I be looking to Solaris or another system as a source of reliability? > No, but you do have to follow -stable and listen for this changes and don't upgrade when new you hear about people having problems or see anything major going into the tree. -- David W. Chapman Jr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message