From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 4 21:11:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE9416A4CE for ; Sat, 4 Sep 2004 21:11:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.202.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D11643D53 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 2004 21:11:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spadger@best.com) Received: from crwdog.demon.co.uk (c-24-16-37-100.client.comcast.net[24.16.37.100]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004090421112001600n5211e>; Sat, 4 Sep 2004 21:11:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by CRWdog.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F9CA59 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:11:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:48:48 +0200." <20040901154847.GA34625@pegasus.hosts.corpex.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:11:19 -0700 From: Andy Sparrow Message-Id: <20040904211120.35F9CA59@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Subject: [OT] Re: IBM T30 and thermal problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 21:11:22 -0000 > > There was a post made - subject line - by an individual outside of IBM > > that did not have the authorization to do so. > > > > The information is IBM Confidential and needs to be removed. > > > > Please have someone contact me ASAP to discuss and to confirm that it has > > been removed. > > > > Thanks. > > The post was made at Fri Jun 6 16:47:48 PDT 2003 - more than a year ago... > Do you really think you can ban this post from a web based archive after > the whole world has mirrored it? Do you have the "delete_from_internet" > button on your keyboard? :-) Hmmm. It seems that he does... The mailing list archive on FreeBSD.org now has XXXX's of the quote contained in the original post, (although Google still has the original cached for the time being), not to mention the many 1000's of copies probably still on individual hard drives belonging to people subscribed to the list at the time. Whilst I have a lot of respect for IBM generally (my impression being that they still do lots of pure research to advance the art, and, if any other company held the patents they did, the entire industry would have been non-viable - IIRC, they hold a patent to display a character on a computer display), this is kind of silly - not to mention sinister. If it was IBM confidential, then it shouldn't have been sent outside IBM at all in the first place. Whilst netiquette says you don't re-post private email to a list/group, this is always a danger with people you don't know/who don't know netiquette/ignore netiquette. IANAL, but surely, once it was disclosed outside IBM then, if not covered by any NDA or prior legal agreement, then it's been disclosed by IBM - albeit inadvertantly or carelessly? Isn't this the same scenario as making ill-advised statements in public and you're then stuck with the consequences? Whilst I think I appreciate why the archive folks complied with the request (FreeBSD != EFF), it's the re-writing/censorship of history that bothers me. We're at war with EurAsia/EurAsia has alway been our friends. We love you Big Brother! Apologies for going off-topic.