From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 16:06:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7654C314 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@1command.com) Received: from udns.ultimateDNS.NET (ultimatedns.net [209.180.214.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42E9C2C9E for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 16:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from udns.ultimateDNS.NET (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimateDNS.NET (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r71G7GhL015353 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:07:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by udns.ultimateDNS.NET (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id r71G7AXI015347; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@1command.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net ([209.180.214.225]) (UDNSMS authenticated user chrish) by ultimatedns.net with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8705515f2e1b295438d448910a7d19bd.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> In-Reply-To: <20130801174900.68fa46eb@mr129166> References: <622977670ec4e80b844c5c6c978ae6f6.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> <20130801174900.68fa46eb@mr129166> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Please remove Perl from ports From: "Chris H" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org User-Agent: UDNSMS/2.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:06:57 -0000 Greetings Patrick, and thank you for the reply. > Le Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT), > "Chris H" a écrit : > >> Greetings, >> I currently manage several RELENG_8 servers. Recent changes in the >> manner in which base && ports must be managed have resulted in more >> than a fair amount of grief. the migration from cv(sup) --> subversion >> required re-working long standing, carefully crafted management >> procedures to be pitched to the trash, and re-invented. A recent >> change to the Perl installation structure presents an entire new set >> of headaches, rendering up(grading|dating) near, if not completely >> impossible. > > that's not new. A perl upgrade was always painful. > I suggest to use poudriere to build yours packages and pkgng to > manage them. As poudriere produces a consistent set of packages, > an upgrade is painless (pkg upgrade -f) and you can deploy them on > several machines. > > In fact poudriere and pkg saved me :) While that all sounds "dreamy". I don't think setting something like that up on a *half* up(graded|dated) server, should even be considered. Much less even possible. :( Thanks again, for taking the time to respond. --chris > > Regards. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >