From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 25 19:18:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27006 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:18:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgate22.a001.sprintmail.com (mailgate22-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA26994 for ; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:18:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bminazzi@w3page.com) Received: by mailgate22.a001.sprintmail.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA17210; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:16:03 -0700 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sprintmail.com Received: from sdn-ts-009coaurop05.dialsprint.net(206.133.160.152) by mailfep2-hme1 via dsmap-1.22 id Q_10.1.1.6/Q_325_1_356a25ab; Mon, 25 May 1998 19:15:07 -0700 Message-ID: <356A227A.9760E56@w3page.com> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 20:01:30 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com CC: Troy Settle , Paul Civati , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMTP Relay probing - Should I follow up - advice? References: <19980525125823.A12350@mooseriver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > number of these spammers are buying access from big spam providers who, in > turn, buy access from large access providers, like alter.net, who just > don't care as long as the check doesn't bounce. I have noticed a lot of crap originating from alter.net's downstream. Can we band together and dely all mail services to alter.net's customers? Or, maybe push other backbone providers to cancel the peering arangements with them. That might send the legit customers somewhere else, if lots of there mail comes back denied, or the cannot connect to many services. We have got to find a way to put the hurt on these fu&%ing theives, and those that support them. Blaine To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message